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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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http://www.flyjeta.com/tech.htm
What say you engine experts?
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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Two problems:
- Price (>$80K)
- French
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Rick S.
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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I don't consider myself an expert - well not in this
field anyway, but when I first started looking at the
-10 it was obvious to me that the SMA230 would be
eminently suitable. I contacted both the local agent
and SMA in France to be told two things. Firstly they
were only interested in supplying complete FWF kits
which only they would install and secondly they were
developing a higher powered version which eventually
would be suitable for us (higher powered being
350+hp). That left me wondering about their marketing
and also their ability to read (when did 260hp max =
350hp?)
My take is that they are not interested in any way in
the experimental market. Since then I have heard that
they are still having prop problems due to unevenness
in the cycle - can't remember the source but it was
printed.
I regretfully will be installing some form of
Lycosaurus which it's ravenous appetite and dislike
for hot starting.
If it's not too early, received first card 1 month
ago, Merry Christmas to all,
Rodger
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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Hi Rodger,
I had thought of the SMA too, but hearing of the troubles
they had and the high cost turned me off as well.
For what it's worth, I've found that at least with the
Lightspeed ignition on one side, Hot Start issues are
a myth, once you learn how to do them. I had a couple
of starts go bad early on, but now I can get it started
right away both hot or cold, and it's an injected
engine. So don't let hot starts scare you away.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Rodger Todd wrote:
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I don't consider myself an expert - well not in this
field anyway, but when I first started looking at the
-10 it was obvious to me that the SMA230 would be
eminently suitable. I contacted both the local agent
and SMA in France to be told two things. Firstly they
were only interested in supplying complete FWF kits
which only they would install and secondly they were
developing a higher powered version which eventually
would be suitable for us (higher powered being
350+hp). That left me wondering about their marketing
and also their ability to read (when did 260hp max =
350hp?)
My take is that they are not interested in any way in
the experimental market. Since then I have heard that
they are still having prop problems due to unevenness
in the cycle - can't remember the source but it was
printed.
I regretfully will be installing some form of
Lycosaurus which it's ravenous appetite and dislike
for hot starting.
If it's not too early, received first card 1 month
ago, Merry Christmas to all,
Rodger
--- Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com> wrote:
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> <jeff(at)westcottpress.com>
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> http://www.flyjeta.com/tech.htm
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> What say you engine experts?
> Click on
> about
> provided
> www.buildersbooks.com
> Admin.
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> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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mritter509(at)msn.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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Rodger,
I have the same setup on my Lyc. IO-540 (Aero Sport engine) as Tim
(Lightspeed and Mag) and agree hot starts are a non-issue.
Mark (N410MR)
Quote: | From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Another Alternative Engine?
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 07:47:38 -0600
Hi Rodger,
I had thought of the SMA too, but hearing of the troubles
they had and the high cost turned me off as well.
For what it's worth, I've found that at least with the
Lightspeed ignition on one side, Hot Start issues are
a myth, once you learn how to do them. I had a couple
of starts go bad early on, but now I can get it started
right away both hot or cold, and it's an injected
engine. So don't let hot starts scare you away.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Rodger Todd wrote:
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>I don't consider myself an expert - well not in this
>field anyway, but when I first started looking at the
>-10 it was obvious to me that the SMA230 would be
>eminently suitable. I contacted both the local agent
>and SMA in France to be told two things. Firstly they
>were only interested in supplying complete FWF kits
>which only they would install and secondly they were
>developing a higher powered version which eventually
>would be suitable for us (higher powered being
>350+hp). That left me wondering about their marketing
>and also their ability to read (when did 260hp max =
>350hp?)
>
>My take is that they are not interested in any way in
>the experimental market. Since then I have heard that
>they are still having prop problems due to unevenness
>in the cycle - can't remember the source but it was
>printed.
>
>I regretfully will be installing some form of
>Lycosaurus which it's ravenous appetite and dislike
>for hot starting.
>
>If it's not too early, received first card 1 month
>ago, Merry Christmas to all,
>
>Rodger
>--- Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com> wrote:
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>><jeff(at)westcottpress.com>
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>>http://www.flyjeta.com/tech.htm
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>>What say you engine experts?
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>>
>>Click on
>>about
>>provided
>>www.buildersbooks.com
>>Admin.
>>
>>browse
>>Subscriptions page,
>>FAQ,
>>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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seipel(at)seznam.cz Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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SMA has been around for a long time. I looked at them when I was
considering DeltaHawk and others. They will not sell to the
experimental market. Only way you're going to get an engine from them,
at least in the next five to ten years, is if you bring them a Cessna
182 and get it retrofitted for $80K. Their entire focus is on the
certified GA market.
PJ
RV-10 #40032
Jeff Carpenter wrote:
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rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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Thanks to both Mark and Tim for the thumbs up on hot
starts.
Tim knows that I live in an area where hot starts are
an everyday necessity and I'm glad to hear that this
is one less worry.
Rodger
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<mritter509(at)msn.com>
Rodger,
I have the same setup on my Lyc. IO-540 (Aero Sport
engine) as Tim
(Lightspeed and Mag) and agree hot starts are a
non-issue.
Mark (N410MR)
>From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
>Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Another Alternative Engine?
>Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 07:47:38 -0600
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<Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
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>Hi Rodger,
>I had thought of the SMA too, but hearing of the
troubles
>they had and the high cost turned me off as well.
>
>For what it's worth, I've found that at least with
the
>Lightspeed ignition on one side, Hot Start issues
are
>a myth, once you learn how to do them. I had a
couple
>of starts go bad early on, but now I can get it
started
>right away both hot or cold, and it's an injected
>engine. So don't let hot starts scare you away.
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Rodger Todd wrote:
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<rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk>
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>>I don't consider myself an expert - well not in
this
>>field anyway, but when I first started looking at
the
>>-10 it was obvious to me that the SMA230 would be
>>eminently suitable. I contacted both the local
agent
>>and SMA in France to be told two things. Firstly
they
>>were only interested in supplying complete FWF
kits
>>which only they would install and secondly they
were
>>developing a higher powered version which
eventually
>>would be suitable for us (higher powered being
>>350+hp). That left me wondering about their
marketing
>>and also their ability to read (when did 260hp max
=
>>350hp?)
>>
>>My take is that they are not interested in any way
in
>>the experimental market. Since then I have heard
that
>>they are still having prop problems due to
unevenness
>>in the cycle - can't remember the source but it
was
>>printed.
>>
>>I regretfully will be installing some form of
>>Lycosaurus which it's ravenous appetite and
dislike
>>for hot starting.
>>
>>If it's not too early, received first card 1 month
>>ago, Merry Christmas to all,
>>
>>Rodger
>>--- Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>><jeff(at)westcottpress.com>
>>>
>>>http://www.flyjeta.com/tech.htm
>>>
>>>What say you engine experts?
>>>
>>>
>>>Click on
>>>about
>>>provided
>>>www.buildersbooks.com
>>>Admin.
>>>
>>>browse
>>>Subscriptions page,
>>>FAQ,
>>>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>___________________________________________________________
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>>Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its
simplicity and ease of use." -
>>PC Magazine
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jesse(at)itecusa.org Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: Another Alternative Engine? |
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I guess ravenous appetite could be debated as well. Yes, you can burn 26gph
at sea level running rich on take-off, but you can also cruise burning 7gph
with TAS upwards of 150Kts, or 13.5gph at 176Kts. That seems to me to be
pretty economical.
Another issue on hot starts is there is a fuel injection system that has a
purge valve so you can pull a lever, run the boost pump, and flush the hot
fuel out of the system. With 2 mags hot start takes a little longer, but it
isn't a big deal IMHO. A Slick Start helps with this also, although they
have stopped selling it, but I hear they are coming out with a new version
sometime early next year.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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johngoodman

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 530 Location: GA
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Another Alternative Engine? |
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carl.froehlich(at)cox.net wrote: | Two problems:
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I don't mind the French, but it's pretty heavy as well.
John
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