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		rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Rotax 914, run fuel pump with no battery? | 
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				Studying Rotax 914 schematic, the main fuel pump is wired to the B+ of the
 regulator.
 
 It appears if you open the alternator output switch, they expect the
 alternator could run the fuel pump with no battery in circuit and act as a
 true redundant pump???
 
 Am I correct in my assumption that you could fly with a fuel pump running
 off the alternator only with no battery connected? 
 
 In this configuration with no battery at all, is the alternator self
 exciting to get things going?
 
 Will testing often to make sure the pump will run in this configuration do
 any harm to the regulator, alternator, pump or switch? Or should this be
 used only in an emergency?
 
 They do have a 22000mF capacitor from B+ to ground.
 
 Thx.
 Ron Parigoris
 
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		Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Rotax 914, run fuel pump with no battery? | 
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				rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us a crit :
 
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 Studying Rotax 914 schematic, the main fuel pump is wired to the B+ of the
 regulator.
 
 It appears if you open the alternator output switch, they expect the
 alternator could run the fuel pump with no battery in circuit and act as a
 true redundant pump???
 
 Am I correct in my assumption that you could fly with a fuel pump running
 off the alternator only with no battery connected? 
 
 In this configuration with no battery at all, is the alternator self
 exciting to get things going?
 
 Will testing often to make sure the pump will run in this configuration do
 any harm to the regulator, alternator, pump or switch? Or should this be
 used only in an emergency?
 
 They do have a 22000mF capacitor from B+ to ground.
 
   
 
 Ron,
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 When designing our project's Rotax 914 electric circuit, I had the 
 opportunity to study the Rotax/Ducati alternator and regulator.
 With the help of a friend who is doing electrical research at the 
 University, we performed some bench tests.
 
 I am positive that the Rotax regulator will NOT start to life if not 
 connected to a properly charged battery or capacitor. You need 
 sufficient bus voltage to trigger it.
 If your battery quits, or if you disconnect it in flight, you may 
 encounter difficulties trying to trigger the regulator again.
 In my opinion, running the fuel pump direct from the regulator, as 
 suggested by Rotax, is definitely NOT a good idea.
 Besides, the Rotax/Ducati exhibits an alarming high rate of failure.
 
 So I decided to go the dual battery way, and resorted to a Schicke 
 regulator, which is self exciting. More info and diagrams on my 
 "Electricity" pages.
 Within the next few weeks, I'll publish a summary of our research.
 
 FWIW,
 Regards,
 Gilles Thesee
 Grenoble, France
 http://contrails.free.fr
 
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		paul.mcallister
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Rotax 914, run fuel pump with no battery? | 
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				Ron,
 
 Yes this is how it works on my aircraft and I have tested it.
 
 Paul
 
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