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I had a very similar situation, stranded with a starter motor full of oil. I sourced a second hand identical starter motor to get me home (since I knew it would fit), and have since fitted a high power (longer) starter motor. Both were fitted without removing the engine (but did involve removing some ancillary equipment). I have a Classic Europa, but with a XS firewall kit (912s)
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1. 01:54 AM - How to replace 912uls starter motor (Ron Peach)
2. 02:20 AM - Re: How to replace 912uls starter motor (Alan Burrill)
3. 04:18 AM - Re: How to replace 912uls starter motor (Dpc)
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Time: 01:54:20 AM PST US
Subject: How to replace 912uls starter motor
From: "Ron Peach" <ronpeach1(at)gmail.com (ronpeach1(at)gmail.com)>
My starter motor has packed up. Suspected oil penetration. I need to replace it.
I have a Europa Classic that I believe is XS firewall forward. The aircraft
is stranded on an Island (IOW UK). I would like to tool up my car, catch a ferry
and fix in situe (it is hangered with limited facilities).
>From what I can see of the installed started motor it appears the be the standard
type (short - 12cm from face to rear, black with internal threaded fixing
rods/bolts).
I have two replacement starters available to me. One is identical to that fitted
and the other appears to be the HD starter (it is 14cm from face to rear and
has external threaded fixing rods/bolts).
I understand that the HD is unlikely to fit as it is too long. However if it did,
the rods are wider apart. How would they bolt to the housing?
Most importantly - Can I change the starter motor with the engine in? If I have
to pull the engine forward, can this be achieved with minimal disruption to exhaust,
radiator, electricals etc? An engine hoist of sorts is available.
All help and advice gratefully recieved.
Regards Ron
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=515452#515452
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 02:20:55 AM PST US
From: Alan Burrill <alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk (alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk)>
Subject: Re: How to replace 912uls starter motor
I have changed my starter motor on my XS 912uls. It is fiddly but patience in undoing
the bolts and manoeuvring. I have the HD starter.
If you have a starter motor that same as a replacement Id go for that to make it
easier to get you home where you can explore the second one.
I have the HD starter and the two bolts are the same spacing but if you are saying
that the ones on yours are different then makes me suspicious what you have
as they should be a direct replacement apart from length. The bolts on the HD
starter are on the outside of the casing.
Alan
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> On 22 Jun 2025, at 09:56, Ron Peach <ronpeach1(at)gmail.com (ronpeach1(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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> My starter motor has packed up. Suspected oil penetration. I need to replace
it. I have a Europa Classic that I believe is XS firewall forward. The aircraft
is stranded on an Island (IOW UK). I would like to tool up my car, catch a ferry
and fix in situe (it is hangered with limited facilities).
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>> From what I can see of the installed started motor it appears the be the standard
type (short - 12cm from face to rear, black with internal threaded fixing
rods/bolts).
>
> I have two replacement starters available to me. One is identical to that fitted
and the other appears to be the HD starter (it is 14cm from face to rear and
has external threaded fixing rods/bolts).
>
> I understand that the HD is unlikely to fit as it is too long. However if it
did, the rods are wider apart. How would they bolt to the housing?
>
> Most importantly - Can I change the starter motor with the engine in? If I have
to pull the engine forward, can this be achieved with minimal disruption to
exhaust, radiator, electricals etc? An engine hoist of sorts is available.
>
> All help and advice gratefully recieved.
>
> Regards Ron
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=515452#515452
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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 04:18:20 AM PST US
From: Dpc <dpc(at)knightonweb.com (dpc(at)knightonweb.com)>
Subject: Re: How to replace 912uls starter motor
Ron
I am one of the Europa owners on the IOW (GBWJH). Do let me know if I can help.
I am 10mins drive from Sandown and 15mins from Bembridge. Which one are you stranded
at? I have plenty of aircraft tools and also know where I can get hold
of an engine hoist if needed. I can also link you up with an inspector for anything
that needs signing off.
Also happy to ferry fly you back home if you need or run you by car to the ferry.
Best way to reach me is by text or WhatsApp on 07393 761230. Happy to pop over
to the airfield this afternoon.
Best regards
David
> On 22 Jun 2025, at 10:00, Ron Peach <ronpeach1(at)gmail.com (ronpeach1(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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> My starter motor has packed up. Suspected oil penetration. I need to replace
it. I have a Europa Classic that I believe is XS firewall forward. The aircraft
is stranded on an Island (IOW UK). I would like to tool up my car, catch a ferry
and fix in situe (it is hangered with limited facilities).
>
>> From what I can see of the installed started motor it appears the be the standard
type (short - 12cm from face to rear, black with internal threaded fixing
rods/bolts).
>
> I have two replacement starters available to me. One is identical to that fitted
and the other appears to be the HD starter (it is 14cm from face to rear and
has external threaded fixing rods/bolts).
>
> I understand that the HD is unlikely to fit as it is too long. However if it
did, the rods are wider apart. How would they bolt to the housing?
>
> Most importantly - Can I change the starter motor with the engine in? If I have
to pull the engine forward, can this be achieved with minimal disruption to
exhaust, radiator, electricals etc? An engine hoist of sorts is available.
>
> All help and advice gratefully recieved.
>
> Regards Ron
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=515452#515452
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