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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:22 am    Post subject: Reverse Rotation On Shutdown Reply with quote

Nope! The first step is correct. "Pull fuel shut off handle". You do want to test the system closed and under pressure. Opening any portion of the system will not test the system as if the engine was running. And clearly that is what you want to do.
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On 9/18/2014 9:42 PM, Egon wrote:

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Ok. I'll have a go.
Pull Fuel Shut Off Handle
Undo Fuel Drain on the bottom of the Fuel Strainer Housing.
If fuel shutoff is working correctly, then just the fuel in the housing should
run out, ie the fuel should stop running fairly quickly.
Undoing the bottom of the strainer housing first and popping the fuel screen out, will not check the fuel shutoff as the fuel should automatically stop running when the filter pops out. ( safety feature )


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:51 am    Post subject: Reverse Rotation On Shutdown Reply with quote

Then do the same thing while operating the wobble pump.

Ernie
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:21 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
[quote] Nope!  The first step is correct. "Pull fuel shut off handle".   You do want to test the system closed and under pressure.   Opening any portion of the system will not test the system as if the engine was running.  And clearly that is what you want to do.
Dennis
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On 9/18/2014 9:42 PM, Egon wrote:

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Ok. I'll have a go.
Pull Fuel Shut Off Handle
Undo Fuel Drain on the bottom of the Fuel Strainer Housing.
If fuel shutoff is working correctly, then just the fuel in the housing should
run out, ie the fuel should stop running fairly quickly.
Undoing the bottom of the strainer housing first and popping the fuel screen out, will not check the fuel shutoff as the fuel should automatically stop running when the filter pops out. ( safety feature )


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:51 am    Post subject: Reverse Rotation On Shutdown Reply with quote

Or....pull handle while engine is running. If engine shut's off, it works.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Then do the same thing while operating the wobble pump.

Ernie
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:21 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
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Nope!  The first step is correct. "Pull fuel shut off handle".   You do want to test the system closed and under pressure.   Opening any portion of the system will not test the system as if the engine was running.  And clearly that is what you want to do.
Dennis
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On 9/18/2014 9:42 PM, Egon wrote:

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Ok. I'll have a go.
Pull Fuel Shut Off Handle
Undo Fuel Drain on the bottom of the Fuel Strainer Housing.
If fuel shutoff is working correctly, then just the fuel in the housing should
run out, ie the fuel should stop running fairly quickly.
Undoing the bottom of the strainer housing first and popping the fuel screen out, will not check the fuel shutoff as the fuel should automatically stop running when the filter pops out. ( safety feature )


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:00 am    Post subject: Reverse Rotation On Shutdown Reply with quote

Yes, that's true Ernie. But opening the fuel screen eliminates testing the entire system under pressure AFTER the fuel shut off valve.
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On 9/19/2014 7:49 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:

[quote] Then do the same thing while operating the wobble pump.

Ernie


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:21 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
Quote:
Nope! The first step is correct. "Pull fuel shut off handle". You do want to test the system closed and under pressure. Opening any portion of the system will not test the system as if the engine was running. And clearly that is what you want to do.
Dennis
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On 9/18/2014 9:42 PM, Egon wrote:

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Ok. I'll have a go.
Pull Fuel Shut Off Handle
Undo Fuel Drain on the bottom of the Fuel Strainer Housing.
If fuel shutoff is working correctly, then just the fuel in the housing should
run out, ie the fuel should stop running fairly quickly.
Undoing the bottom of the strainer housing first and popping the fuel screen out, will not check the fuel shutoff as the fuel should automatically stop running when the filter pops out. ( safety feature )


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:02 am    Post subject: Reverse Rotation On Shutdown Reply with quote

The question originally was, do you know how to test the fuel shut off to see if it really is shutting off the fuel without having to run the engine to find out?
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On 9/19/2014 7:50 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:

[quote] Or....pull handle while engine is running. If engine shut's off, it works.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Then do the same thing while operating the wobble pump.

Ernie


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:21 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
Quote:
Nope! The first step is correct. "Pull fuel shut off handle". You do want to test the system closed and under pressure. Opening any portion of the system will not test the system as if the engine was running. And clearly that is what you want to do.
Dennis
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On 9/18/2014 9:42 PM, Egon wrote:

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Ok. I'll have a go.
Pull Fuel Shut Off Handle
Undo Fuel Drain on the bottom of the Fuel Strainer Housing.
If fuel shutoff is working correctly, then just the fuel in the housing should
run out, ie the fuel should stop running fairly quickly.
Undoing the bottom of the strainer housing first and popping the fuel screen out, will not check the fuel shutoff as the fuel should automatically stop running when the filter pops out. ( safety feature )


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:14 am    Post subject: Reverse Rotation On Shutdown Reply with quote

Earnie,
I once had to shut down an idling M-14P with the firewall handle. It took long minutes to use up the remaining fuel. Surprised me how long.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:45 am    Post subject: Reverse Rotation On Shutdown Reply with quote

That is absolutely true, at least at IDLE.

I pulled that handle after a poor gent got hit by a prop once, and it also took a LONG time for the engine to stop.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:07 am    Post subject: Reverse Rotation On Shutdown Reply with quote

Rags stuffed in the intake works to. Watch that big fan on the nose though. If you don't it will leave a permanent mark.
Had to do that once when one of the P leads became disconnected and the fuel cut off was not completely closing.
Doc

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On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Richard Hess <hess737(at)aol.com (hess737(at)aol.com)> wrote:
[quote] Earnie,
I once had to shut down an idling M-14P with the firewall handle. It took long minutes to use up the remaining fuel. Surprised me how long.


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