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		genie(at)swissmail.org Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:55 am    Post subject: Marginal Battery Charge when Starting | 
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				When starting my RV-6 it feels that the charge of my battery is 
 marginal. It does start but the electric motor or battery feel 
 reluctant, as if they will not grant me many attempts and can barely 
 start the engine. I keep the battery charged when my aircraft is parked 
 in the hangar, and the tension in the voltmeter shows around 13V when 
 the engine is not running. Could there be a problem with the battery and 
 is it safe to fly under such circumstances? Thanks.
 
 George Nielsen
 RV-6 PH-XGN
 The Hague, the Netherlands
 
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		ceengland7(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:52 am    Post subject: Marginal Battery Charge when Starting | 
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				On 4/14/2014 12:55 PM, George Nielsen wrote:
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  When starting my RV-6 it feels that the charge of my battery is 
  marginal. It does start but the electric motor or battery feel 
  reluctant, as if they will not grant me many attempts and can barely 
  start the engine. I keep the battery charged when my aircraft is 
  parked in the hangar, and the tension in the voltmeter shows around 
  13V when the engine is not running. Could there be a problem with the 
  battery and is it safe to fly under such circumstances? Thanks.
 
  George Nielsen
  RV-6 PH-XGN
  The Hague, the Netherlands
 Is it a basically 'stock' Lyc with carburetor & magnetos? If so, the 
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 only danger to continued flight would be loss of the engine driven fuel 
 pump, in which case you'd need battery or alternator power to run the 
 electric backup fuel pump. Now, how your air traffic control would feel 
 about you losing radio contact might be another issue.   Here in the 
 USA, in most parts of the country that wouldn't be a major problem; I 
 live about 15 miles from a Class C airport, and almost never talk to 
 them while flying from my home airport community strip.
 
 The easiest 1st test is to get some help to hold your volt meter probes 
 directly on the + & - terminals of the battery (directly on the posts, 
 *not* on the clamps that attach the battery cables to the battery posts).
 
 Leave the mags off & fuel to idle cutoff to prevent starting, and crank 
 the engine for a few seconds, observing the voltmeter while cranking. If 
 voltage doesn't drop below around 8-9 volts at at the battery, it's 
 probably good. If the voltage stays up at around 10-12 volts, you 
 probably have a problem (higher than normal resistance) somewhere in the 
 wiring between the battery & starter. It can be anywhere in the path: 
 either battery terminal to clamp, clamp to wire, wire to terminal at 
 master solenoid, etc. Don't forget the return path: starter frame to 
 engine, engine ground terminal to wire, and back to battery negative. 
 You can actually find the problem point with the voltmeter while 
 cranking, but it requires moving the probes to the various points 
 mentioned, while the engine is cranking (not many people are willing to 
 be that close to the prop while the engine is moving, even if only 
 cranking).
 
 Here in the USA, almost any automotive parts house that sells batteries 
 will 'load test' the battery using a load that simulates a starter load. 
 That would let you know whether the battery really is dying.
 
 If the battery load-tests as good, and starting voltage (on the battery 
 terminals) is dropping below about 8 volts, the starter might be going 
 bad (shorted windings in the starter, or mechanical issues like binding 
 gears or bearings).
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 Charlie
 
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