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 Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:54 pm Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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Hi all
There is a moment that I plan to buy more efficient than the Yak 52 aircraft ( I own one for 3 years).
Of course, as yak addict , the choice for a yak 55 looks obvious. (cheaper than yak 54 or sukkoi)
I am well aware that I will fly only alone, that this plane is a tail dragger much less tolerant with muddy strips, that I will certainly forget the idea of flying when there is snow on the runway ....
What do you think? Is this a good choice? Another possibility? What are the pro or the con?
Thanks
Olivier
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:09 pm Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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The ultimate transition from a Yak 52 would be a Yak 50. You will have incredible performance, efficiency, and envy of all your friends.
Mark. Weeds On Dec 11, 2013 12:57 PM, "Olivier Vigneron" <ssssskippy(at)gmail.com (ssssskippy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:[quote] Hi all
There is a moment that I plan to buy more efficient than the Yak 52 aircraft ( I own one for 3 years).
Of course, as yak addict , the choice for a yak 55 looks obvious. (cheaper than yak 54 or sukkoi)
I am well aware that I will fly only alone, that this plane is a tail dragger much less tolerant with muddy strips, that I will certainly forget the idea of flying when there is snow on the runway ....
What do you think? Is this a good choice? Another possibility? What are the pro or the con?
Thanks
Olivier
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:18 pm Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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You're right Mark...but I would like to improve the aerobatic capability....Yak 50 would be wonderfull as collection aircraft for sure...but perhaps less efficient than yak 55 for aerobatics...Am i wrong?
Thanks
Olivier
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The ultimate transition from a Yak 52 would be a Yak 50. You will have incredible performance, efficiency, and envy of all your friends.
Mark. Weeds On Dec 11, 2013 12:57 PM, "Olivier Vigneron" <ssssskippy(at)gmail.com (ssssskippy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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There is a moment that I plan to buy more efficient than the Yak 52 aircraft ( I own one for 3 years).
Of course, as yak addict , the choice for a yak 55 looks obvious. (cheaper than yak 54 or sukkoi)
I am well aware that I will fly only alone, that this plane is a tail dragger much less tolerant with muddy strips, that I will certainly forget the idea of flying when there is snow on the runway ....
What do you think? Is this a good choice? Another possibility? What are the pro or the con?
Thanks
Olivier
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Etienne Verhellen
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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Bonsoir Olivier ! 
If you want to do Advanced Aerobatic Competition, go for the Yak-55M.
If you want to experience the pure exhilaration of Flying Aerobatics for Fun, Airshows or Formation Flying, NOTHING compares to the Yak-50 ! 
http://www.yakovlevs.com/display-aviation-events/airshows/
I have flown a lot of different Yaks, Yak-11, Yak-12, Yak-18T, Yak-52, Yak-54, Yak-55 (have not yet flown the Yak-3 or Yak-9  / Sukhoi-29 ... some French and American aerobatic flying machines.
My favourite is most definitely the Yak-50. By a long shot !
Up to you Olivier. Depending on what you are after.
Cheers,
Etienne.
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William Halverson
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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It is true the 18T can do some kinds of aerobatics?
On 12/11/2013 2:27 PM, Etienne Verhellen wrote:
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Bonsoir Olivier !
If you want to do Advanced Aerobatic Competition, go for the Yak-55M.
If you want to experience the pure exhilaration of Flying Aerobatics for Fun, Airshows or Formation Flying, NOTHING compares to the Yak-50 !
http://www.yakovlevs.com/display-aviation-events/airshows/
I have flown a lot of different Yaks, Yak-11, Yak-12, Yak-18T, Yak-52, Yak-54, Yak-55 (have not yet flown the Yak-3 or Yak-9 / Sukhoi-29 ... some French and American aerobatic flying machines.
My favourite is most definitely the Yak-50. By a long shot !
Up to you Olivier. Depending on what you are after.
Cheers,
Etienne.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415412#415412
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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Ross and Budd Granley perform formation aerobatics in a Yak 55 and Yak 18T. They are an incredible act.
Enjoy.
Mark "Weeds"
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william(at)netpros.net (william(at)netpros.net)> wrote:[quote] --> Yak-List message posted by: William Halverson <william(at)netpros.net (william(at)netpros.net)>
It is true the 18T can do some kinds of aerobatics?
On 12/11/2013 2:27 PM, Etienne Verhellen wrote:
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> If you want to do Advanced Aerobatic Competition, go for the Yak-55M.
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> If you want to experience the pure exhilaration of Flying Aerobatics for Fun, Airshows or Formation Flying, NOTHING compares to the Yak-50 !
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> http://www.yakovlevs.com/display-aviation-events/airshows/
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> I have flown a lot of different Yaks, Yak-11, Yak-12, Yak-18T, Yak-52, Yak-54, Yak-55 (have not yet flown the Yak-3 or Yak-9 / Sukhoi-29 ... some French and American aerobatic flying machines.
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> My favourite is most definitely the Yak-50. By a long shot !
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> Up to you Olivier. Depending on what you are after.
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> Cheers,
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> Etienne.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:57 pm Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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The Yak 52 is a much stronger built than the 50. When the 52 was designed, the YDB had the experience from the 50.
But the 50 indeed is a delight to fly. Personally, I find it easier to fly than the 52 but I haven't got many hours on a 52.
As for landing: much easier than a Pitts, for instance. As powerfull as she is, she's also rather docile (unless you go for the serious aerobatic work, of course).
It becomes increasingly difficult to find certain spare parts (not everything is interchangeable with the 52), the tailwheel oleo for instance.
And finally: there are not that many Yak 50's for sale.
I would not recommend buying a 50 if you want to advance in aerobatics: they're oldtimers, and they should be handled as such.
A 55 is better suited for aerobatics and definitely easier to maintain (no retractable gear).
An issue: figure out how you want to register the plane. Depending upon the country you live in, you might encounter quite some difficulties.
Only my 2 cents,
Jan
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Date: Wednesday 11 December 2013 21:53
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Subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55
Hi all
There is a moment that I plan to buy more efficient than the Yak 52 aircraft ( I own one for 3 years).
Of course, as yak addict , the choice for a yak 55 looks obvious. (cheaper than yak 54 or sukkoi)
I am well aware that I will fly only alone, that this plane is a tail dragger much less tolerant with muddy strips, that I will certainly forget the idea of flying when there is snow on the runway ....
What do you think? Is this a good choice? Another possibility? What are the pro or the con?
Thanks
Olivier
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:09 pm Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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The 18 T is capable of some quite serious aerobatics! With 400 hp; light weight; MT prop and inverted oil system (the fuel is already inverted) it can do a full vertical roll; an outside loop; multiple snap rolls etc
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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Evening Magazine did a great story on Bud and Ross a few years ago.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_2FAY5pIms
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:21 am Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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I do not believe that the Yak 54 has problems in spin recovery, provided
these are done correctly, as is required for any aircraft. However the Yak
52 is very different, and spins, particularly "flat" should not be attempted
without good instruction.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:37 am Post subject: Switching from a yak52 to a yak55 |
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No - the 50 is very different, and will always recover easily, both erect
and inverted. It has about the same size control surfaces as the 52, but far
less rotational inertia which is what can make flat spin recovery so
prolonged in the 52.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
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