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peteohms

Joined: 31 Oct 2007
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Location: Leander, TX

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

Can an ATV dealer break the bead?  What would I need to do myself if I don't 

have the tools?



Pete



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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

any ATV shop can take it off, fix it and have it back on in a few minutes for a few bucks.  I change mine by pulling the valve stem. then putting the edge of the tire under the car tire and pulling forward.  It will pop it right off, just don't stick it under too far or you can bend the rim.



Harbor freight has what you need for a few bucks too



http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=34552



you will need the ATV adapter for 3.99



http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=36448



Then you have the 5.00 redneck version that you probably dont need to leave home to ge the materials for....



http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

Take it to Walmart, They'll break it free for ya. They don't  sell tubes anymore.  Oh ya, tell them its for a golf cart.  Steve  Bennett  Wal mart store number... No just kidding..

  In a message dated 8/31/2008 10:29:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  apeterchristensen(at)sbcglobal.net writes:

 [quote]-->    Kitfox-List message posted by: "Pete Christensen"    <apeterchristensen(at)sbcglobal.net>



Can an ATV dealer break the    bead?  What would I need to do myself if I don't 

have the    tools?



Pete



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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

Pete Christensen wrote:

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 Can an ATV dealer break the bead?  What would I need to do myself if I 

 don't have the tools?



 Pete



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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

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		  Can an ATV dealer break the bead? What would I need to do myself if I 

don't have the tools? 



Pete 

	




Yup they have the tools. 



The Redneck version in my opinion would not work. 

You need to get in an pry the bead past the bead lock........ it not that easy without the right tools.

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

I took mine to a local Golf course.



Todd



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 Date: 8/31/2008 1:38:16 PM

 Subject: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?



 

 > Can an ATV dealer break the bead? What would I need to do myself if I 

 > don't have the tools? 

 > 

 > Pete 

 > 

 Yup they have the tools. 



 The Redneck version in my opinion would not work. 

 You need to get in an pry the bead past the bead lock........ it not that

easy without the right tools.
	


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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

Pete,  I have broken the bead several times by putting the wheel and tire on 

the ground over a patch of old carpet and driving the front tire of my truck 

onto it.  It helps to have a guide man - my wife, in my case.  It takes a 

while and be careful you don't cut your truck tire or bend the ATV rim.  I 

never did, but was careful.  I did once try one of the small tire changing 

units from Harbor Freight and damaged the rim where the grease cup 

attatches.  I fixed it with a lathe.



Lowell



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peteohms

Joined: 31 Oct 2007
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Location: Leander, TX

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

On my VW dunebuggy I used to put a 2X6 about 3' long on the tire as a ramp 

and drive my car up to break the bead.  Would this work?



Pete

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Tom Jones

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

 	  peteohms wrote: 	
		  On my VW dunebuggy I used to put a 2X6 about 3' long on the tire as a ramp 

and drive my car up to break the bead.  Would this work?



Pete

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Pete, it might.  I have dismounted car tires using the "drive on", method, the bumper jack method and the sledge hammer method.  The kitfox wheel and tire foiled me however.  I finally surrendered and took it to the tire store (Les Schwabs) told the guy it was an atv wheel and he dismounted the old tire, mounted the new one and did't charge me anything.



Those Douglas wheels are getting hard to come by.  I see new ones are available but I think they have diamonds woven into them by the price I have seen quoted.  Be careful.

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

I've used everything from an old truck to my Imprezza to break down tires.

My early model Quad's tires won't fit most of the tire changers in this area

including the one at the outdoor shop.  Just make sure to remove the valve

stem first and break the back of the tire first.  You may have to break the

bead in steps.  I knew a guy who used to mount tubeless tires with an ounce

or so of gas.... he threw it into the tire waited a minute for it to

vaporize and tossed a match in the general direction.... bang! The tire was

mounted.   I don't have the kahunas to try that myself!



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dave

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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?

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		  On my VW dunebuggy I used to put a 2X6 about 3' long on the tire as a ramp 

and drive my car up to break the bead. Would this work? 



Pete 

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Pete, I really doubt that would work.  You have to get between the lip of the rim and the bead of the tire and you have to go in about 1/2 inch or so.  Your way the tire will likely fold over and the bead will not slide over the bead lock ridge on the rim.  A simple tool like the tool  that  I made works well.  If you are unsure just take to a ATV shop or make your own.   

Dave

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