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msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: Give me a brake! |
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Hey Bob.
I'm sure I did if that's how you get to the plug because I do remember replacing the plug. Don't ask me how though, as it's been about 4 years ago. Ask George at Matco. I recall he was very helpful.
When I got the plane, brakes were brand new, installed dry. I put in the red fluid, bled them and went out for taxi tests. Left was squishy from the get-go, no amount of bleeding would fix them so I did the rebuild. Everything was fine after that. Never hand any trouble with right side.
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Bob Brennan <matronics(at)bob.brennan.name> wrote:
| Quote: | From: Bob Brennan <matronics(at)bob.brennan.name>
Subject: RE: Re: Give me a brake!
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 1:27 PM
Thanks Marco - You would win that beer for sure, what's your favorite<g>?
Have you removed the piston from the rod to get to that plug on your own equipment? I would like to inspect it asap just to be certain it is the culprit, but I am afraid of breaking the swivel joint.
I will save the boots thanks, I save everything...
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes
Sent: 27 August 2008 9:42 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Give me a brake!
Bob:
I've had the same experience as you and Lenny's advice is spot on. I'll bet you a beer it's the Buna-N plug that's the culprit. Your master cylinder is a Matco MC-1. The rebuild kit is p/n MCRBD1 available cheaply from Matco.
The plud is glued to the piston with any fast setting adhesive designed for a petroleul environment. Matco recommends Loctite Black Max. Plug is then trimmed to length per instructions included with the kit.
If the rubber boot is worn, save it! They don't use it in the newer models and no longer supply replacements. Here's the contact stuff I have:
George R. Happ
MATCO mfg
801-486-7574 801-486-7581 (F)
www.matcomfg.com
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
--- On Tue, 8/26/08, akflyer <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | From: akflyer <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Give me a brake!
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:29 PM
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<akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com>
Another thought. I think the little rubber "plug" on the bottom of
the plunger may be the problem. When you get the re-build kit, you have to glue
the rubber disk on, then sand it off to XX measurement (sorry I am at work and
wont be home to pull the directions till the 5th) I though well crap, what they
call for is only a few thousands less than what it comes out to be when you glue
the whole thing on so I don't need to sand it.... well you could not fill
from the bottom up as those few thousandths was enough to block the hole. I
then sanded it off, put it back together and it did the same thing you are
describing.. I was pissed as one side worked and the other didn't and I knew
darn good and well I had put them both together the same... Well when I pulled
it back apart, I had flipped something over on the left one just as I think you
have, but I cant remember exactly what it was (I did it last year).. At any
rate, I bet you just flipped something over when you had it a!
part.
Hopefully this will help you out.
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582 IVO IFA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Give me a brake! |
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so far that is 3 or 4 of us that have had issues with the left side only... sup wit dat?
gonna take a few MGD's and a few toddies to figure this one out.
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msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: Give me a brake! |
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Lefties always burn out faster Lenny. 
do not archive
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, akflyer <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | From: akflyer <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Give me a brake!
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 2:53 PM
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<akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com>
so far that is 3 or 4 of us that have had issues with the left side only... sup
wit dat?
gonna take a few MGD's and a few toddies to figure this one out.
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Give me a brake! |
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Bob, you will likely need black loctite to glue on the buna plug when you get your matco kit.
Once again -- make sure that both calpiers are free and do slide freely ....... you can get drag and/or less pressure to non sliding caliper. I had exactly the same issue before.
Dave
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: Give me a brake! |
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And to think that a few days ago I didn't even know what a "buna plug" was!
Live and learn. And with airplanes possibly "don't learn - don't live"
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1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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