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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: RES: 100LL/Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? Reply with quote

Have a look at Google earth too! I have a few pictures posted there for consideration. They should be viewable around the middle of September.

Noel

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Espuny
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:50 PM
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Subject: RES: Re: RES: 100LL/Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction?



Oh, I didn't notice you were so far nort !
Our realities are quite different, not just talking of fuels.
I understand now that you have to be worried about ethanol.
And I also imagine the amazing landscapes you have in sight far there while flying ! I'll try it at the Flight Simulator Smile

Espuny

De: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] Em nome de Noel Loveys
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 18 de agosto de 2008 11:20
Para: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Assunto: RE: Re: RES: 100LL/Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction?



2. Fuelling the cars you mentioned on ethanol would require taking the driver out an flogging him/her severely with a wet codfish! J

3. hydrated ethanol would be easier to make and handle than ethanol which is virtually water free at the refinery. Water is the enemy and it is the reason I wouldn't use it in an aircraft engine.

4. we are still using the old Wheaton bridge resistance float type gas gauges in our cars. From the sounds of things you are using a capacitance type volume indicator similar to what is used on larger planes. That would be a great advancement. Not only do you get faster readings but you get them without the use of moving parts... One less part to wear out in the fuel tank

5. I live in Newfoundland, an island in the North Atlantic. We don't have a commercial corn crop here. Neither do we have a way to get ethanol here in anything larger than a keg ( the way I like to get it!) So the chances we will ever see E anything here is remote. Shippers don't want to put it in their ships and it has to be added at the distribution point. The only way that could be done is by shipping it in here as pure ethanol in specially built sealed trucks. Even then I doubt quantities would be sufficient to make E10 for all our gas. I have seen a few new minivans sporting the flex fuel badges but they have to be fuelled with straight gasoline. E85 or E100 will probably turn up here ten minutes after you know where freezes over. In the mean time we will see exactly how flex those vehicles really are by how well they handle the gasoline.

Rotax and Jabiru are much higher technology than the Lycoming and Continental engines. They were designed to TBO at close to double the time on the older engines. The presence of lead will add all the problems the older engines had. As for ethanol use the engines would want to have the heads planed a few thousandths or special pistons to increase the CR and then all the seals may need to be changed. Rotax and Jab won't do that at this time because there are just too many countries where good MOGAS is available.

Noel
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