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 Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Charles,
It's just a rumor on the 1000hp. Other reports suggest 300-600hp. I'm
not really sure how much fuel the plane holds, but several racers only carry
enough for 30 minutes and have oversized fuel pumps to get the fuel to the
highly modified engines. I'd say it'd be a high fuel burn though. Diesels
are more efficient in fuel burn though, so maybe less than a comparable gas
powered engine. It's around a 600 cu. in. engine I think I read, so if you
think that the 12 cylinder P-51 raceplanes are burning at least 80gph at
full tilt boogie, then maybe 1/3-1/2 of that per displacement? I wish that
I could find the pictures of the engine and prop. 5 bladed GT prop. That
plane is super highly modified though. The gear are different, the plane is
cut down width wise so that only one pilot is there, and the fuselage
lengthend and a taller vertical stabilizer.
Unfortunately no NXT racing for the rest of today probably. Today a couple
of IF1 racers had a mid-air. Sadly, this time, it was two folks that I've
met. Gary Hubler of Indiana and Jason Somes of California. Gary died and
Jason "Flying Elvis" Somes landed safely, but the plane was badly beat up
and he suffered back injuries. Worst year for Reno accidents on record with
3 deaths so far. Only 15 have died before that since 1964. Brian W.
From: Charles Dewey <cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: More Nemesis Chatter
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
Brian - What king of gph and cruise speed do you think
the 1000HP diesel will have? Charles
--- Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Whittingham" <dashvii(at)hotmail.com>
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> I'm not sure if you have painted the whole plane a
> darker color if it
> matters if the plane is always kept hangared except
> when flown. Anyhow, I'm
> sure tha they wouldn't do it unless they knew what
> they were doing. Maybe
> they don't plan on them lasting that long?
>
> Here's a couple more NXT pics that I don't think I
> posted a link to yet.
>
> One in the build with a GITSO 800, that's a 720
> bored out, geared and
> turbocharged:
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http://www.aerochia.com/news_images/ken-ross-b_lrg.jpg
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http://www.aerochia.com/news_images/5-07_NXT_3_lrg.jpg
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> The single seat modified NXT that will have a 1000hp
> 12 cylinder diesel
> engine?
>
http://www.aerochia.com/news_images/5-07_NXT_2_lrg.jpg
> Looks like they took down the picture with the
> engine and 5 bladed prop on
> the front, but let me say it looked cool!
>
> Brian W.
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cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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i guess the 1000hp diesel was too good to be true...
if you get the chance, ask jon sharp if there is a
diesel engine that can be currently installed in the
nxt...maybe not quite so big as 1000hp, but one that
can be stock and still carry 2 passengers. jet fuel is
a bargain these days!
--- Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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Whittingham" <dashvii(at)hotmail.com>
Charles,
It's just a rumor on the 1000hp. Other reports
suggest 300-600hp. I'm
not really sure how much fuel the plane holds, but
several racers only carry
enough for 30 minutes and have oversized fuel pumps
to get the fuel to the
highly modified engines. I'd say it'd be a high
fuel burn though. Diesels
are more efficient in fuel burn though, so maybe
less than a comparable gas
powered engine. It's around a 600 cu. in. engine I
think I read, so if you
think that the 12 cylinder P-51 raceplanes are
burning at least 80gph at
full tilt boogie, then maybe 1/3-1/2 of that per
displacement? I wish that
I could find the pictures of the engine and prop. 5
bladed GT prop. That
plane is super highly modified though. The gear are
different, the plane is
cut down width wise so that only one pilot is there,
and the fuselage
lengthend and a taller vertical stabilizer.
Unfortunately no NXT racing for the rest of today
probably. Today a couple
of IF1 racers had a mid-air. Sadly, this time, it
was two folks that I've
met. Gary Hubler of Indiana and Jason Somes of
California. Gary died and
Jason "Flying Elvis" Somes landed safely, but the
plane was badly beat up
and he suffered back injuries. Worst year for Reno
accidents on record with
3 deaths so far. Only 15 have died before that
since 1964. Brian W.
From: Charles Dewey <cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: More Nemesis
Chatter
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
<cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com>
Brian - What king of gph and cruise speed do you
think
the 1000HP diesel will have? Charles
--- Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Whittingham" <dashvii(at)hotmail.com>
>
> I'm not sure if you have painted the whole plane
a
> darker color if it
> matters if the plane is always kept hangared
except
> when flown. Anyhow, I'm
> sure tha they wouldn't do it unless they knew
what
> they were doing. Maybe
> they don't plan on them lasting that long?
>
> Here's a couple more NXT pics that I don't think
I
> posted a link to yet.
>
> One in the build with a GITSO 800, that's a 720
> bored out, geared and
> turbocharged:
>
http://www.aerochia.com/news_images/ken-ross-b_lrg.jpg
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> engine and 5 bladed prop on
> the front, but let me say it looked cool!
>
> Brian W.
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dashvii(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Last post on the subject,
NXT's took the top two positions in the Super Sport Gold Final at the
Reno National Championship Air Races. John Sharp took first at about 389mph
average speed. This isn't a high altitude cross country event either, this
is about a 50 foot off the ground pylong race. Kevin in Relentless got
passed after a couple of laps. No word on his speed, but fast. It's funny
that the sport airplane finished faster than any of the bronze class
Unlimited racers (typically stock WWII birds).
Rare Bear took the Unlimiteds at 475ish mph. Mayday by a mustang just as
the races started, then Rare Bear and Sept. Fury were battling for first
when the fury popped an engine and had a minor fire under the cowling, put
down on the runway safely. Then, after the race, Rare Bear had a stuck
throttle at 2400 RPM and 48 inches manifold pressure. John Penney pulled up
and orbited the field while the severely clipped wing fury cleared the
runway. Then with Steve Hinton on his wing in a T-33 and 30 gallons of fuel
left (think about that, a modified Grumann Bearcat at high RPM, how much
time do you think it takes to burn 30 gallons?) Mr. Penney leaned the
mixture abeam the runway and made a dead stick in. Everything worked out
fine. When he got on the ground they found a huge 2-3 foot section of bondo
from the cowlind had chipped off and dented the wing and ingested into the
engine. Also had an exhaust stack that was burned completely off. The jet
races were won by a T-2 Buckeye at about 489mph. The IF1 was won by an
Arnold AR-6 called Endeavor at about 245mph. The biplane won by Miss Gianna
a Pitts LR-1 at about 234mph. See here if you don't know what a Pitts LR-1
is: http://www.aafo.com/gallery/potw/12-27-05.html and the T6 class was won
by Midnight Miss at 235mph. (these are stock engines on a T6, how in the
world do they get them up to that speed? Balanced controls, good sheet
metal, etc.)
Turned out to be a bad week/good week. Very close and exciting racing but 3
pilots died. Jason Somes recovered from eye surgery after his accident
earlier in the week and was at the races again on Sunday. (not flying) In
conclusion, yes the NXT is a super fast rocket ship. If you've got lots of
money, time, and pilot skill, it's probably a good plane. If you want a
fast and efficient plane that is more on the level that most of us can
afford, the Lightning is a great choice. Brian W.
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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It would be interesting to see a race between the Jabiru/Rotax powered aircraft!
Lightning, Zodiac, WT9, etc. etc.
On 9/17/07, Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com (dashvii(at)hotmail.com)> wrote: [quote]--> Lightning-List message posted by: "Brian Whittingham" < dashvii(at)hotmail.com (dashvii(at)hotmail.com)>
Last post on the subject,
NXT's took the top two positions in the Super Sport Gold Final at the
Reno National Championship Air Races. John Sharp took first at about 389mph
average speed. This isn't a high altitude cross country event either, this
is about a 50 foot off the ground pylong race. Kevin in Relentless got
passed after a couple of laps. No word on his speed, but fast. It's funny
that the sport airplane finished faster than any of the bronze class
Unlimited racers (typically stock WWII birds).
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dashvii(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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There is a new aircraft from Germany that I think looks neat. It's dang
fast, but doesn't look like room for much of anything except maybe another
passenger. Wild looking wing planform. Tail section reminds me of a BAE
Hawk trainer jet. It is extremely fast with a 100hp rotax. Can you imagine
a 120hp Jabiru firewall forward kit for this plane?
http://www.millennium-aircraft.com/ Brian W.
From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim(at)gmail.com>
Reply-To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: More Nemesis Chatter
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:28:34 -0400
It would be interesting to see a race between the Jabiru/Rotax powered
aircraft!
Lightning, Zodiac, WT9, etc. etc.
On 9/17/07, Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> dashvii(at)hotmail.com>
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> Last post on the subject,
> NXT's took the top two positions in the Super Sport Gold Final at the
> Reno National Championship Air Races. John Sharp took first at about
> 389mph
> average speed. This isn't a high altitude cross country event either,
> this
> is about a 50 foot off the ground pylong race. Kevin in Relentless got
> passed after a couple of laps. No word on his speed, but fast. It's
> funny
> that the sport airplane finished faster than any of the bronze class
> Unlimited racers (typically stock WWII birds).
>
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mark.stauffer1(at)gmail.c
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Well, when I finish my Jabiru powered Zodiac…….
I really don’t want to embarrass Nick though. It’s enough that they put with me at the shop since I’m building a “beer can” airplane!!
All in fun.
Mark
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:29 PM
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: More Nemesis Chatter
It would be interesting to see a race between the Jabiru/Rotax powered aircraft!
Lightning, Zodiac, WT9, etc. etc.
On 9/17/07, Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com (dashvii(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
--> Lightning-List message posted by: "Brian Whittingham" < dashvii(at)hotmail.com (dashvii(at)hotmail.com)>
Last post on the subject,
NXT's took the top two positions in the Super Sport Gold Final at the
Reno National Championship Air Races. John Sharp took first at about 389mph
average speed. This isn't a high altitude cross country event either, this
is about a 50 foot off the ground pylong race. Kevin in Relentless got
passed after a couple of laps. No word on his speed, but fast. It's funny
that the sport airplane finished faster than any of the bronze class
Unlimited racers (typically stock WWII birds).
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Beer cans can fly fast too…
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Stauffer
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 6:38 PM
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: More Nemesis Chatter
Well, when I finish my Jabiru powered Zodiac…….
I really don’t want to embarrass Nick though. It’s enough that they put with me at the shop since I’m building a “beer can” airplane!!
All in fun.
Mark
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:29 PM
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: More Nemesis Chatter
It would be interesting to see a race between the Jabiru/Rotax powered aircraft!
Lightning, Zodiac, WT9, etc. etc.
On 9/17/07, Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com (dashvii(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
--> Lightning-List message posted by: "Brian Whittingham" < dashvii(at)hotmail.com (dashvii(at)hotmail.com)>
Last post on the subject,
NXT's took the top two positions in the Super Sport Gold Final at the
Reno National Championship Air Races. John Sharp took first at about 389mph
average speed. This isn't a high altitude cross country event either, this
is about a 50 foot off the ground pylong race. Kevin in Relentless got
passed after a couple of laps. No word on his speed, but fast. It's funny
that the sport airplane finished faster than any of the bronze class
Unlimited racers (typically stock WWII birds).
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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"Beer cans can fly fast too."
You obviously haven't seen Mark ever build a beer can! *L* j/k
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mark.stauffer1(at)gmail.c
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Now, now. It's a very nice beer can!!
And believe me, I have lots of experience with beer cans!!
Mark
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Thought some of you would like this. Video 1 is Relentless NXT vs. Nemesis
NXT in the sport gold atreno this year, around 390mph.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmY3n72vBh8
The 2nd is of Relentless, in cockpit cam, turning the pylons during
qualifications, 378mph.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IfKKq1GLCcQ
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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brian- thanks for those videos- I owe you one. Charles
--- Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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Whittingham" <dashvii(at)hotmail.com>
Thought some of you would like this. Video 1 is
Relentless NXT vs. Nemesis
NXT in the sport gold atreno this year, around
390mph.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmY3n72vBh8
The 2nd is of Relentless, in cockpit cam, turning
the pylons during
qualifications, 378mph.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IfKKq1GLCcQ
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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If you're interested in buying a complete NXT see: http://www.trade-a-plane.com/classified/search?browse=single&usealttemplate=1&adnum=787373 Ebay auction starts Oct. 25th, starting bid of $400k. Umph! It does nearly double the speed of a Lightning, but for 6ish times the price! Also have some numbers on what the fuel burns are, and well, it's high! Brian W.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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brian- It should e noted that 'relentless' is a
previously wrecked plane. there was another nxt in
trade-a-plane aout a year ago- i don't know if it ever
sold or what... i wonder what kevin eldridge's motives
are for selling... maybe the newer nxt's are
improved...after all he is the maunfacturer.. his
wesite is sloair.com charles
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Lightning, but for 6ish times the price! Also have
some numbers on what the fuel burns are, and well,
it's high! Brian W.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Charles,
Kevin said that he wants to build another plane. Probably wants to change things up, different cockpit,different engine, etc. Next one will be for racing as well. Kit number 9 was just delivered. These things were around before the lightning. This was the 3rd year of racing, so 3 kits a year, pretty specialized stuff. Surprised actually that they're not more expensive. Brian W.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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I finally got a response from folks about the NXT with the 12 cylinder diesel. No more info is known about it than before, no updates in 5 months, but I got a couple of pics, posted on a public server, courtesty of Aero Chia. (see http://www.aerochia.com/) Just thought I'd share because this looks too cool. Brian W.Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Brian where did you get that picture of the new Lightning?
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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LoL!
On 10/11/07, Tex Mantell <wb2ssj(at)earthlink.net (wb2ssj(at)earthlink.net)> wrote: [quote] Brian where did you get that picture of the new Lightning?
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Did you also notics the Jabiru 6600?
On 10/11/07, Jim Langley <pequeajim(at)gmail.com (pequeajim(at)gmail.com)> wrote: [quote]LoL!
On 10/11/07, Tex Mantell <wb2ssj(at)earthlink.net (wb2ssj(at)earthlink.net)> wrote: [quote] Brian where did you get that picture of the new Lightning?
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: More Nemesis Chatter |
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Some of you guys (and gals) might like this. Kevin E's NXT, flying formation with airshow legend Sean D Tucker and Sean's son Eric. See: http://www.airshowbuzz.com/files/photo/gallery/photos/orig_6636_77565.jpg Also, keep forgetting the jab of John Sharp's racing team called team Nemesis. Well, people point out that it spells "Sissy Men" backwards. All in good fun and thought that worth a laugh. Brian W.
Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now! [quote][b]
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