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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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Not a surprise that I wouldn’t be given a personal invite given my past comments on Doug’s operation. I’m just not big on having my posts edited and then posted with no comment that it was edited. But hey, it’s putting his kids through college (and his kids kids, and the kids down the street, and their kids, etc). I just have a thing about business being run under false pretences, but that’s just me.
Oh ya, and you’re jaded. 
Do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:09 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Okay, call me jaded but I just received an invitation to migrate over to the RV-10 web reflector offered by Doug Reeves. Question #1 – Now, am I the only one?
Question #2, is it correct that this list has become a private conversation between Saint Aviation and individuals who cannot take private conversations private? Cause I am not on any list for Rosen Visors or Saint Aviation business endevours nor see value in the build for knowing who they all are. Tim, is that how you handled the axle extension offer?
At one time this was a sharing forum for diverse builders with common interests.
John Cox #40600
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cal Hoffman
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:56 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Count me in - I am at the right point to install.
Cal Hoffman
97 Myrick Street
Barnwell, SC 29812
803-541-5242
cehoffman(at)bellsouth.net
I would like a full set of visors.
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sean(at)stephensville.com
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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Smells like the same *bull* (pardon the english) from the ole Yahoo! days.
-Sean (#40303 still waiting to start again)
On May 23, 2007, at 10:34 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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Not a surprise that I wouldn’t be given a personal invite given my past comments on Doug’s operation. I’m just not big on having my posts edited and then posted with no comment that it was edited. But hey, it’s putting his kids through college (and his kids kids, and the kids down the street, and their kids, etc). I just have a thing about business being run under false pretences, but that’s just me.
Oh ya, and you’re jaded.
Do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of John W. CoxSent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:09 PMTo: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: RE: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Okay, call me jaded but I just received an invitation to migrate over to the RV-10 web reflector offered by Doug Reeves. Question #1 – Now, am I the only one?
Question #2, is it correct that this list has become a private conversation between Saint Aviation and individuals who cannot take private conversations private? Cause I am not on any list for Rosen Visors or Saint Aviation business endevours nor see value in the build for knowing who they all are. Tim, is that how you handled the axle extension offer?
At one time this was a sharing forum for diverse builders with common interests.
John Cox #40600
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Cal HoffmanSent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:56 PMTo: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Count me in - I am at the right point to install.
Cal Hoffman
97 Myrick Street
Barnwell, SC 29812
803-541-5242
cehoffman(at)bellsouth.net (cehoffman(at)bellsouth.net)
I would like a full set of visors.
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mritter509(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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Yeh! I hear he just purchased a G-5 to take all those kids to college.
Wonder what part my $25 contribution bought?
Mark
N410MR
[quote]From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:34:37 -0500
Not a surprise that I wouldn't be given a personal invite given my past
comments on Doug's operation. I'm just not big on having my posts edited
and then posted with no comment that it was edited. But hey, it's putting
his kids through college (and his kids kids, and the kids down the street,
and their kids, etc). I just have a thing about business being run under
false pretences, but that's just me.
Oh ya, and you're jaded.
Do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:09 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Okay, call me jaded but I just received an invitation to migrate over to
the RV-10 web reflector offered by Doug Reeves. Question #1 - Now, am I
the only one?
Question #2, is it correct that this list has become a private conversation
between Saint Aviation and individuals who cannot take private
conversations private? Cause I am not on any list for Rosen Visors or
Saint Aviation business endevours nor see value in the build for knowing
who they all are. Tim, is that how you handled the axle extension offer?
At one time this was a sharing forum for diverse builders with common
interests.
John Cox #40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cal Hoffman
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:56 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Count me in - I am at the right point to install.
Cal Hoffman
97 Myrick Street
Barnwell, SC 29812
803-541-5242
cehoffman(at)bellsouth.net
I would like a full set of visors.
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jjessen
Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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#1. Nope, got no private invite. Have tried to use his site from time to time, but find this one easier, friendlier, more informative, although I would like to encourage more participation by those who feel too shy or too hurried or too self absorbed to help the group think and learning process. Don't really care if he's putting his kids through college, but do care about unsolicited editing.
#2. Have no care whatsoever, and in fact encourage that Jesse or Tim or anyone else publicly helping folks create a solution, and, although I commented to Jesse off-line, am not at all offended by the email traffic.
$3. How 'bout them Red Sox? Lost 2 of 3 from the Bombers. Sky is falling!
John J
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:09 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Okay, call me jaded but I just received an invitation to migrate over to the RV-10 web reflector offered by Doug Reeves. Question #1 – Now, am I the only one?
Question #2, is it correct that this list has become a private conversation between Saint Aviation and individuals who cannot take private conversations private? Cause I am not on any list for Rosen Visors or Saint Aviation business endevours nor see value in the build for knowing who they all are. Tim, is that how you handled the axle extension offer?
At one time this was a sharing forum for diverse builders with common interests.
John Cox #40600
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cal Hoffman
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:56 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Count me in - I am at the right point to install.
Cal Hoffman
97 Myrick Street
Barnwell, SC 29812
803-541-5242
cehoffman(at)bellsouth.net
I would like a full set of visors.
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greytex
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> It's still early John.. We were due for the slump..... John Cram 40569
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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:50 am Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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Of course you did, he has to invite people so that he can justify his outrageous rates for advertising. Are we forgetting how he does not "EDIT" anyone's responses, as long as they do not say anything negative about any paying vendor on his site that is. He is once again trying to sway the market with a new set of builders and especially a group of builders that have deeper pockets, so he can raise the advertising rates for his advertisers to reach a higher end target market?
Call me jaded, but at least Matt is letting us post our opinions freely, and attachments to boot!
Dan
N289DT RV10E
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:09 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Okay, call me jaded but I just received an invitation to migrate over to the RV-10 web reflector offered by Doug Reeves. Question #1 – Now, am I the only one?
Question #2, is it correct that this list has become a private conversation between Saint Aviation and individuals who cannot take private conversations private? Cause I am not on any list for Rosen Visors or Saint Aviation business endevours nor see value in the build for knowing who they all are. Tim, is that how you handled the axle extension offer?
At one time this was a sharing forum for diverse builders with common interests.
John Cox #40600
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cal Hoffman
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:56 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Count me in - I am at the right point to install.
Cal Hoffman
97 Myrick Street
Barnwell, SC 29812
803-541-5242
cehoffman(at)bellsouth.net
I would like a full set of visors.
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drdonfa(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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I live in Lynchburg, VA and teach at Liberty University.
Right now, I am at Mountain Air, near Burnsville, NC. through Monday.
Don
On 5/23/07, Randy DeBauw <Randy(at)abros.com (Randy(at)abros.com)> wrote: | Quote: |
Don, Where are you located? Randy 40006
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Don Fanning
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:52 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
I would like a full set. We can install it this summer when I come down for the annual and the ADI install (if it comes out).
Don
On 5/22/07, Jesse Saint < jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
I have you on my list for the Rosen Visors. Please reply to this e-mail and let me know if you want a full set for $317.97 plus shipping or a half set for $168.99. Please include on your e-mail the desired shipping address and phone number. I will e-mail an invoice that you can send in with a check after I figure out the shipping charges. I should be able to do a flat-rate USPS box or something like that. I do accept paypal, but they charge a fee, so I would need the fee added to the amount you send.
GOD BLESS!
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bobby J. Hughes
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:50 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Jessie,
At $200 count me in.
Enjoyed our visit at Lockhart.
Bobby Hughes
40116
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:08 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Sorry for the quality, but I have attached some pictures of our Rosen Sun Visor installation. I am getting a quote on our custom mount from a local machine shop and am getting a quote from Rosen on a group buy for the visors. We tried to find a place on the sides to install a visor, but there just isn't a good place to put it that won't block the pilot's vision when he isn't using the visor. This is a 3-axis visor, so it can be used to block sun from the pilot or copilot's front anywhere in the windshield and can also block the pilot's right or copilot's left. Unfortunately we couldn't find any way to block the sun from the pilot's left or copilot's right except a suction cup or static cling piece. The visor base would mount on the cabin top using two of the 4 screws that hold the front bar to the cab in top.
Please let me know off the list if you are interested and I will put a list together and let you know when I know how much it would cost. I am hoping to keep it under $200 including the visor (big or small lense) and the custom black-anodized base.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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Don
Liberty University
Of: 434-592-4127
Cel: 434-944-5347
email: drdonfa(at)gmail.com (drdonfa(at)gmail.com)
Skype: drdonfanning
MSN Messenger: dfanning(at)liberty.edu (dfanning(at)liberty.edu)
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Of: 434-592-4127
Cel: 434-944-5347
email: drdonfa(at)gmail.com (drdonfa(at)gmail.com)
Skype: drdonfanning
MSN Messenger: dfanning(at)liberty.edu (dfanning(at)liberty.edu)
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drdonfa(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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Jesse,
I am confirmed for the visors.
Do not send them, however, due to the damage on the plane. I will probably be sending you the plane on a flat-bed truck shortly, if it is confirmed that you can help me rebuild the damage.
Can you give me a rough estimate from the pics? For insurance. Of course we don't know how much damage is done until we thoroughly inspect it.
Anyhow we can make this installation of the visors at that time.
Don F.
On 5/22/07, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote: [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
I have you on my list for the Rosen Visors. Please reply to this e-mail and
let me know if you want a full set for $317.97 plus shipping or a half set
for $168.99. Please include on your e-mail the desired shipping address and
phone number. I will e-mail an invoice that you can send in with a check
after I figure out the shipping charges. I should be able to do a flat-rate
USPS box or something like that. I do accept paypal, but they charge a fee,
so I would need the fee added to the amount you send.
GOD BLESS!
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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greytex
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> OK, this really got my attention. was it a 10 and what type of damage?
John Cram 40569 (stuff)
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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A Columbia came in too high and hot today at Mountain Air in NC and didn’t abort landing, so he hit, bounced, hit the wing on the cliff then cartwheeled into 4 planes including N415EC, a bonanza, a cirrus (which it destroyed) and a Cessna 421, at which time it exploded, killing all 3 people in the Columbia and destroying the Cessna. This is all 3rd hand info. The RV-10 got a few nicks in the prop and the windscreen was broken, plus a minor scratch on the cowling. I am personally more concerned for the families of those who lost their lives. I wish it had only been a bird strike like happened to the -10 a couple of months ago.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cram
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:11 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
OK, this really got my attention. was it a 10 and what type of damage?
John Cram 40569 (stuff)
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From: Don Fanning (drdonfa(at)gmail.com)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy
Jesse,
I am confirmed for the visors.
Do not send them, however, due to the damage on the plane. I will probably be sending you the plane on a flat-bed truck shortly, if it is confirmed that you can help me rebuild the damage.
Can you give me a rough estimate from the pics? For insurance. Of course we don't know how much damage is done until we thoroughly inspect it.
Anyhow we can make this installation of the visors at that time.
Don F.
On 5/22/07, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
I have you on my list for the Rosen Visors. Please reply to this e-mail and
let me know if you want a full set for $317.97 plus shipping or a half set
for $168.99. Please include on your e-mail the desired shipping address and
phone number. I will e-mail an invoice that you can send in with a check
after I figure out the shipping charges. I should be able to do a flat-rate
USPS box or something like that. I do accept paypal, but they charge a fee,
so I would need the fee added to the amount you send.
GOD BLESS!
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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Don, don't you know it's in poor taste to post like that??? 4,283 folks out there are now wondering about your mishap. I hate to tell ya, but since you blabbed to the whole group instead of directly to Jessee, it's time to come clean. And not a 'do not archive' anywhere!!!
Linn
Don Fanning wrote:
[quote] Jesse,
I am confirmed for the visors.
Do not send them, however, due to the damage on the plane. I will probably be sending you the plane on a flat-bed truck shortly, if it is confirmed that you can help me rebuild the damage.
Can you give me a rough estimate from the pics? For insurance. Of course we don't know how much damage is done until we thoroughly inspect it.
Anyhow we can make this installation of the visors at that time.
Don F.
On 5/22/07, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote: [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
I have you on my list for the Rosen Visors. Please reply to this e-mail and
let me know if you want a full set for $317.97 plus shipping or a half set
for $168.99. Please include on your e-mail the desired shipping address and
phone number. I will e-mail an invoice that you can send in with a check
after I figure out the shipping charges. I should be able to do a flat-rate
USPS box or something like that. I do accept paypal, but they charge a fee,
so I would need the fee added to the amount you send.
GOD BLESS!
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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drdonfa(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy |
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Upps! I forgot who was listening! The Columbia was trying to get airborn after a bad landing attempt, and miraculously busted my windshield with his right wheel, then his prop clipped my prop, and something busted the spinner and scrapped across the top cowl. The Sirus and Cessna 421 next in the line were totaled. There was virtually nothing left of the Columbia, which is under the remains of the 421 in the picture.
Now I am back to dreaming of flying the RV10 again.
Don
On 5/26/07, linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote: [quote] Don, don't you know it's in poor taste to post like that??? 4,283 folks out there are now wondering about your mishap. I hate to tell ya, but since you blabbed to the whole group instead of directly to Jessee, it's time to come clean. And not a 'do not archive' anywhere!!!
Linn
Don Fanning wrote:
[quote] Jesse,
I am confirmed for the visors.
Do not send them, however, due to the damage on the plane. I will probably be sending you the plane on a flat-bed truck shortly, if it is confirmed that you can help me rebuild the damage.
Can you give me a rough estimate from the pics? For insurance. Of course we don't know how much damage is done until we thoroughly inspect it.
Anyhow we can make this installation of the visors at that time.
Don F.
On 5/22/07, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote: [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" < jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
I have you on my list for the Rosen Visors. Please reply to this e-mail and
let me know if you want a full set for $317.97 plus shipping or a half set
for $168.99. Please include on your e-mail the desired shipping address and
phone number. I will e-mail an invoice that you can send in with a check
after I figure out the shipping charges. I should be able to do a flat-rate
USPS box or something like that. I do accept paypal, but they charge a fee,
so I would need the fee added to the amount you send.
GOD BLESS!
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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