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		Troy Maynor
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Classic Wing Repair Needed | 
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				Hi All,
 I'm seeking advice about classic wings. Yesterday I was giving the wings a
 once-over again before putting the remaining coats of smooth prime. I was
 checking if anything else needed sanding. On the starboard wing, about 2
 feet from the root and about 1 foot from the leading edge on the bottom of
 the wing I noticed a small raised spot about 1 or 1 1/2" that was not there
 before. I know, because I had already sanded it smooth and had two coats of
 primer and had sanded a little of it back off, and was fairly satisfied that
 all was complete. It appears for some reason that it has delaminated on this
 one spot. I took my spline with some 120 gt and got it back level again
 without getting into the glass. It still has some Super-fil on it. If you
 mash on it, it gives slightly to the push in an area about 1 inch or so. My
 question is; should I grind a big ole place out down to the foam, which
 seems scary to me, and lay up a few plies of bid? Or should I  inject (using
 a big ole syringe I have) some pure epoxy through a small hole into the soft
 spot? Or should I inject a little epoxy/micro slurry into the area and see
 how it feels after it cures? There isn't anything in this area such as
 controls tubes or wiring conduits or the like. I can't figure out how it
 happened. The wings have been built for 10 years or so. I have kept them in
 recent years in a vertical sling made of carpet connected to 2 x 4s, much
 like the transporter. This is the only irregularity I have seen. Any
 thoughts or advice you all can offer?
 
 Troy Maynor
 N120EU Monowheel Classic
 Left to finish:
 Paint,interior,engine install, some wiring.
 
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		paul.mcallister
 
 
  Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 177 Location: Waukesha, WI USA
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Classic Wing Repair Needed | 
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				Troy,
 
 I am not expert, having only build one aircraft, but it is was mine I would
 remove the whole area and re glass.  You can find spots that are a potential
 for delaminating by bouncing a coin on its edge over any suspect areas, it
 will sound hollow if it has de laminated.  Now is the time to find all these
 spots rather than after its painted.
 
 Just my 2 cents worth.
 
 Paul
 
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		hurstkr(at)growzone.com.a Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:45 am    Post subject: Classic Wing Repair Needed | 
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				Troy,
 
 I was hoping Nev Eyre would come to your rescue here so while we wait to 
 hear from him, thought I would sympathise with you.
 
 I had an identical bulge about 1" dia on the bottom of one of my wings too. 
 Mine was caused when I laid up a couple of plies of bid simultaneously on 
 the reinforced section trapping a little air pocket which I didn't see at 
 the time of lay-up.  What made it worse was that I heated my workshop after 
 the lay-up to speed up the cure only to learn from this mistake.  I have 
 discovered that whenever there is a small air pocket and the temp gets 
 elevated before cure, the air in the pocket expands and makes the bubble a 
 hell of a lot bigger.  Having said this, I cannot understand how yours would 
 have happened after curing.
 
 So I hope it makes you feel somewhat happier to know that you are not alone.
 
 I drilled two small holes (about 1/16" or could have been 1/32") opposite 
 each other on the outsides of the bubble.  I then injected pure epoxy with a 
 syringe into one hole until it came out the other.  Using a bit of peel ply 
 and plastic sheeting as a release agent, I then covered the bubble and 
 weighted it down while it cured.  It is still visible but I don't have the 
 high spot any more.
 
 I am not putting this method forward as an approved solution, it is simply 
 what I did.  If you would prefer to do an approved fibreglass repair, I 
 would suggest you contact a glider repairer to find out how to do a proper 
 scarf and the lay-ups.  There is a repair procedure for this which is 
 different from anything we have done in construction.
 
 Personally, with a bubble that small, I don't think there would be anything 
 to gain by going to the trouble of doing the proper repair procedure but I 
 could be wrong, I was once !
 
 Good luck.
 
 Kingsley
 
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