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rleffler
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 Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:40 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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For those that have a IO-540-D4A5, how easy is to change the oil filter in the standard location?
Does the standby alternator make getting the oil filter on and off any more difficult?
Would you recommend a 90 degree oil filter adapter?
I’m going down all my list of options that I’ve collected over the years of my build and trying to eliminate as many as possible to reduce the budget.
Thanks,
bob
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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I was dead set on wanting a standby alternator
originally, but after a while I came to realize
that with as much backup battery as I put in
I really don't need one. That is a significant
savings right there. Then the standard straight
oil adapter works fine.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/29/2010 6:19 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
| Quote: | For those that have a IO-540-D4A5, how easy is to change the oil filter
in the standard location?
Does the standby alternator make getting the oil filter on and off any
more difficult?
Would you recommend a 90 degree oil filter adapter?
I’m going down all my list of options that I’ve collected over the years
of my build and trying to eliminate as many as possible to reduce the
budget.
Thanks,
bob
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aerosport1
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:07 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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Bob oil filter is easy to get on and off
In the standard location with the backup
Alternator.
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Aug 29, 2010, at 7:19 AM, "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:
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For those that have a IO-540-D4A5, how easy is to change the oil filter in the standard location?
Does the standby alternator make getting the oil filter on and off any more difficult?
Would you recommend a 90 degree oil filter adapter?
I’m going down all my list of options that I’ve collected over the years of my build and trying to eliminate as many as possible to reduce the budget.
Thanks,
bob
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:44 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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It sure doesn't look easy. Haven't gotten there yet but wondering if
there is some technique involved?
I use a 6 foot plastic 'gutter' on my Maule to keep it all clean... and
band aids nearby for the knuckles.
Bill Watson
On 8/29/2010 10:06 AM, g.combs wrote:
| Quote: | Bob oil filter is easy to get on and off
In the standard location with the backup
Alternator.
Geoff
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aerosport1
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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I learned a trick from the mechanic on my field. First i put a few
rags under filter area for drips. Then loosen filter to were you can
turn by hand then Take a plastic shopping bag and put over filter you
can then find various spots to hook bag handles to hold in place. I
then spin filter off from outside the bag. Inside bag if you can.
Oil goes in bag filter goes in bag remove bag with oil a filter. It work
Good. A little awkward at first but after
A few oil changes you get the procedure down. One thing make sure
You remove saftey wire remains so
It does not tear bag.
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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It sure doesn't look easy. Haven't gotten there yet but wondering
if there is some technique involved?
I use a 6 foot plastic 'gutter' on my Maule to keep it all clean...
and band aids nearby for the knuckles.
Bill Watson
On 8/29/2010 10:06 AM, g.combs wrote:
> Bob oil filter is easy to get on and off
> In the standard location with the backup
> Alternator.
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> Geoff
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> Sent from my iPhone Geoff
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Robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:06 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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The 90 degree makes the process much easier and cleaner. There is also a
firewall mounted oil filter adapter that is simple to use and I believe less
expensive. No mess when removing the filter and the oil nearly all drains
back into the case with these devices.
When I have had the straight filter I placed a "canoe" shaped cutout of a
plastic soda bottle to collect any dripping oil this was about 50% effective
when considering the number of times I spilled some oil when removing the
bottle. Still not ideal.
Good luck,
Robin
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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Here is a poor picture of how I catch the oil. I start by putting a
rag under the filter over the stuff below, just in case. Then
I have a clear tupperware rectangular pan that I cut into a
wedge shaped taper and it slides right in under the filter.
I spin off the filter, and just remove it right away.
Then wipe the sealing face, and spin on a new filter with
a little of that dow compound (can't remember the number off hand)
to lubricate the seal. Spin it on and tighten it and safety
wire. The filter takes maybe 3 minutes to deal with from
start to finish.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060601/RV200606010065.html
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060601/RV200606010069.html
The 2 photos above have the kelly filter (won't buy those again)
that I tried. This is what I use now:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060601/RV200606010075.html
You can see in one of those photos that the straight adapter has
a lip that overhangs the pan, so I don't spill anything at all.
There are all sorts of puncture drains and stuff that you can use
to drain the filter before pulling it, but I've found that it's
quick for me to just yank the filter and get a new one in place.
Then I can pull the old filter and pan together and let them
drain into the oil pan that I put under the plane to catch
into a sealed container.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/29/2010 11:04 AM, g.combs wrote:
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I learned a trick from the mechanic on my field. First i put a few rags
under filter area for drips. Then loosen filter to were you can turn by
hand then Take a plastic shopping bag and put over filter you can then
find various spots to hook bag handles to hold in place. I then spin
filter off from outside the bag. Inside bag if you can.
Oil goes in bag filter goes in bag remove bag with oil a filter. It work
Good. A little awkward at first but after
A few oil changes you get the procedure down. One thing make sure
You remove saftey wire remains so
It does not tear bag.
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson
<MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:
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> <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
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> It sure doesn't look easy. Haven't gotten there yet but wondering if
> there is some technique involved?
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> I use a 6 foot plastic 'gutter' on my Maule to keep it all clean...
> and band aids nearby for the knuckles.
>
> Bill Watson
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> On 8/29/2010 10:06 AM, g.combs wrote:
>> Bob oil filter is easy to get on and off
>> In the standard location with the backup
>> Alternator.
>>
>> Geoff
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>> Sent from my iPhone Geoff
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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Bob;
I just went out and looked, unlike my car, the filter is on the top side of the back and very easy to get to, forget the 90 degree not needed at all in my opinion.
I stuck my hand under the filter as there is the concern of oil dripping down the complete rear, looks like plenty of space to put something there to catch the oil as the filter is removed.
Pascal
From: Bob Leffler (rv(at)thelefflers.com)
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 4:19 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter
For those that have a IO-540-D4A5, how easy is to change the oil filter in the standard location?
Does the standby alternator make getting the oil filter on and off any more difficult?
Would you recommend a 90 degree oil filter adapter?
I’m going down all my list of options that I’ve collected over the years of my build and trying to eliminate as many as possible to reduce the budget.
Thanks,
bob
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rleffler
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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Do you have an alternator on the vacuum pad?
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 3:23 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter
Bob;
I just went out and looked, unlike my car, the filter is on the top side of the back and very easy to get to, forget the 90 degree not needed at all in my opinion.
I stuck my hand under the filter as there is the concern of oil dripping down the complete rear, looks like plenty of space to put something there to catch the oil as the filter is removed.
Pascal
From: Bob Leffler (rv(at)thelefflers.com)
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 4:19 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter
For those that have a IO-540-D4A5, how easy is to change the oil filter in the standard location?
Does the standby alternator make getting the oil filter on and off any more difficult?
Would you recommend a 90 degree oil filter adapter?
I’m going down all my list of options that I’ve collected over the years of my build and trying to eliminate as many as possible to reduce the budget.
Thanks,
bob0123456789012
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rene(at)felker.com
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:41 pm Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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Bob, I have a standby alternator and the standard filter setup. It is not hard change the oil. I use old rags, put them under the filter and not problems. I think I am going to try the plastic bag method.
Rene'
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:21 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter
Do you have an alternator on the vacuum pad?
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 3:23 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter
Bob;
I just went out and looked, unlike my car, the filter is on the top side of the back and very easy to get to, forget the 90 degree not needed at all in my opinion.
I stuck my hand under the filter as there is the concern of oil dripping down the complete rear, looks like plenty of space to put something there to catch the oil as the filter is removed.
Pascal
From: Bob Leffler (rv(at)thelefflers.com)
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 4:19 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter
For those that have a IO-540-D4A5, how easy is to change the oil filter in the standard location?
Does the standby alternator make getting the oil filter on and off any more difficult?
Would you recommend a 90 degree oil filter adapter?
I’m going down all my list of options that I’ve collected over the years of my build and trying to eliminate as many as possible to reduce the budget.
Thanks,
bob01234567890123456789012
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Kellym
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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If you have your plane hangared, the easiest way to deal with the oil
filter is to drain the oil overnight. With 12 hours or more, there will
be only a tablespoon or so of oil left in the filter, and a couple paper
towels under the filter will catch it.
On 8/29/2010 9:04 AM, g.combs wrote:
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<g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com>
I learned a trick from the mechanic on my field. First i put a few
rags under filter area for drips. Then loosen filter to were you can
turn by hand then Take a plastic shopping bag and put over filter you
can then find various spots to hook bag handles to hold in place. I
then spin filter off from outside the bag. Inside bag if you can.
Oil goes in bag filter goes in bag remove bag with oil a filter. It work
Good. A little awkward at first but after
A few oil changes you get the procedure down. One thing make sure
You remove saftey wire remains so
It does not tear bag.
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson
<MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:
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> <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
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> It sure doesn't look easy. Haven't gotten there yet but wondering if
> there is some technique involved?
>
> I use a 6 foot plastic 'gutter' on my Maule to keep it all clean...
> and band aids nearby for the knuckles.
>
> Bill Watson
>
> On 8/29/2010 10:06 AM, g.combs wrote:
>> Bob oil filter is easy to get on and off
>> In the standard location with the backup
>> Alternator.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone Geoff
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:08 am Post subject: 90 Degree Oil Filter Adapter |
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I have all the wiring in place for a backup alternator also but it really is optional in my electrical system and will wait until later to add one if at all. At OSH this year, plane-power had a vacuum pad mounted 40 amp backup alternator on display. Similar to their primary units, it will/can be internally regulated. Price for the internally reglated unit is to be $695.
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I was dead set on wanting a standby alternator
originally, but after a while I came to realize
that with as much backup battery as I put in
I really don't need one. That is a significant
savings right there. Then the standard straight
oil adapter works fine.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
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