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ogdenk

Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 41
Location: Syracuse, NY

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:08 am Post subject: Wing Wiring and Conduit

Hi all,

  

 I am working on my wing ribs, and realize I have to start thinking about what all will need wiring in the wing.  Without knowing exactly what will be out there, I want to leave as much room for wiring as reasonable and was wondering what other people have done at this point.  I see the conduit that Vans sells, and it mentions that it has been used for wing wiring.  Has anyone done this?  Is this the blue ribbed conduit shown in the recent conduit abrasion thread?  The plans call for enlarging the wiring hole to 5/8" (0.625") for the grommet, but the conduit is 0.810" according to Van's.  Is this too much of an enlargement of the hole?  The plans say that enlarging to 5/8" will create a notch in the angle on the inboard rib, I don't want that any larger than necessary.

  

 Also, if installing AOA, do the lines get run through the wiring run?  I would like to finalize at least the pitot line.  Looks like the bottom skins shouldn't be put on until all of these details are worked out.

  

 Thanks . . .

  

 Kent Ogden

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: Wing Wiring and Conduit

I installed vans conduit, enlarged the holes to 3/4" and pulled it through the ribs.  I have 5 wire pull stings running through it now so I na pull the wires when needed.



On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Kent Ogden <OgdenK(at)upstate.edu (OgdenK(at)upstate.edu)> wrote:

 [quote]    Hi all,

  

 I am working on my wing ribs, and realize I have to start thinking about what all will need wiring in the wing.  Without knowing exactly what will be out there, I want to leave as much room for wiring as reasonable and was wondering what other people have done at this point.  I see the conduit that Vans sells, and it mentions that it has been used for wing wiring.  Has anyone done this?  Is this the blue ribbed conduit shown in the recent conduit abrasion thread?  The plans call for enlarging the wiring hole to 5/8" (0.625") for the grommet, but the conduit is 0.810" according to Van's.  Is this too much of an enlargement of the hole?  The plans say that enlarging to 5/8" will create a notch in the angle on the inboard rib, I don't want that any larger than necessary.

   

 Also, if installing AOA, do the lines get run through the wiring run?  I would like to finalize at least the pitot line.  Looks like the bottom skins shouldn't be put on until all of these details are worked out.

   

 Thanks . . .

  

 Kent Ogden

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:23 am Post subject: Wing Wiring and Conduit

The Vans conduit will fit nicely in a 3/4" hole, which, as I recall, is the hole size Vans does not want you to exceed.



Jeff Carpenter

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On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Kent Ogden wrote:

[quote] Hi all,

  

 I am working on my wing ribs, and realize I have to start thinking about what all will need wiring in the wing.  Without knowing exactly what will be out there, I want to leave as much room for wiring as reasonable and was wondering what other people have done at this point.  I see the conduit that Vans sells, and it mentions that it has been used for wing wiring.  Has anyone done this?  Is this the blue ribbed conduit shown in the recent conduit abrasion thread?  The plans call for enlarging the wiring hole to 5/8" (0.625") for the grommet, but the conduit is 0.810" according to Van's.  Is this too much of an enlargement of the hole?  The plans say that enlarging to 5/8" will create a notch in the angle on the inboard rib, I don't want that any larger than necessary.

  

 Also, if installing AOA, do the lines get run through the wiring run?  I would like to finalize at least the pitot line.  Looks like the bottom skins shouldn't be put on until all of these details are worked out.

  

 Thanks . . .

  

 Kent Ogden

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:13 am Post subject: Wing Wiring and Conduit

Kent Ogden wrote:

Kent;



Few things to think about;



AOA.  I ran my plastic tubing lines thru the same conduit.  Plastic one 

worked well.  As mentioned, Make sure you have an extra pull string. 



Other things to think about:

Wingtip lighting  (position /strobe/led/whelen) 

Will your pitot tube have a heating element for ice?  Will need power 

and indicator lights. 

VOR /marker beacon antennae?  Some people put theirs in the wingtip. 

Temp probe? I put mine in an accessible area  inboard of the innermost 

inspection plate.

Do you want a landing light (like duckworks) or go with the wing tip 

landing lights? 



Start getting a spread sheet of what you want in the wings before you 

rivet up the lower skin. 

Dr Fred

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johngoodman

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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:02 am Post subject: Re: Wing Wiring and Conduit

Kent,

I used Vans conduit through 3/4" holes like the others have mentioned. For the AoA, I enlarged the tooling hole near the pitot line hole for the second plastic tube.

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ogdenk

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: Wing Wiring and Conduit

Thanks for the replies.  I decided to go ahead and order all of the accessories I will put in the wings (lights, servos, AOA etc.) so there will be no surprises down the road.  It's surprising how much extra you can spend on accessories .  I have been mulling the Safeair tip tanks as well, but at this point the budget won't bear it.  Also, after reading all the great trip reports and thinking about the reality of sitting in the plane for that long, I don't think I will really need them.

  

 Kent

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Kent Ogden wrote:

Kent;



Few things to think about;



AOA.  I ran my plastic tubing lines thru the same conduit.  Plastic one 

worked well.  As mentioned, Make sure you have an extra pull string. 



Other things to think about:

Wingtip lighting  (position /strobe/led/whelen) 

Will your pitot tube have a heating element for ice?  Will need power 

and indicator lights. 

VOR /marker beacon antennae?  Some people put theirs in the wingtip. 

Temp probe? I put mine in an accessible area  inboard of the innermost 

inspection plate.

Do you want a landing light (like duckworks) or go with the wing tip 

landing lights? 



Start getting a spread sheet of what you want in the wings before you 

rivet up the lower skin. 

Dr Fred

515FW



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Kelly McMullen

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:30 am Post subject: Wing Wiring and Conduit

I don't know if that makes sense. The market of available items keeps

changing. I don't plan to rivet the bottom skin on until I am just

about ready to mount the wings to the fuselage. Pitot selection

depends on EFIS selection, as does AOA. Servos depend on autopilot

selection..True track and Dyon are supposed to physically interchange,

but not electronically. I don't think the market is mature on LED

lights, nor HID lights. Given that from the wings completion to wing

mounting is at least 6 months or more work, I want at least 1 more OSH

to go by before I finalize any of that.

Kelly

40866

Wings about complete, except for wiring and accessories.



On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Kent Ogden <OgdenK(at)upstate.edu> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Thanks for the replies.  I decided to go ahead and order all of the

 accessories I will put in the wings (lights, servos, AOA etc.) so there will

 be no surprises down the road.  It's surprising how much extra you can spend

 on accessories .  I have been mulling the Safeair tip tanks as well, but

 at this point the budget won't bear it.  Also, after reading all the great

 trip reports and thinking about the reality of sitting in the plane for that

 long, I don't think I will really need them.



 Kent

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>>> "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred(at)suddenlinkmail.com> 1/21/2010 1:11 PM >>>

 

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 Kent Ogden wrote:

 Kent;



 Few things to think about;



 AOA.  I ran my plastic tubing lines thru the same conduit.  Plastic one

 worked well.  As mentioned, Make sure you have an extra pull string.



 Other things to think about:

 Wingtip lighting  (position /strobe/led/whelen)

 Will your pitot tube have a heating element for ice?  Will need power

 and indicator lights.

 VOR /marker beacon antennae?  Some people put theirs in the wingtip.

 Temp probe? I put mine in an accessible area  inboard of the innermost

 inspection plate.

 Do you want a landing light (like duckworks) or go with the wing tip

 landing lights?



 Start getting a spread sheet of what you want in the wings before you

 rivet up the lower skin.

 Dr Fred

 515FW

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: Wing Wiring and Conduit

My view on the tip tanks……  

Wife and kids don’t fly legs more than 2.5hr legs…  

Weight.  I have my airplane at 2800 and with people in the back seats I hit the limit.  

60 gallons at reasonable fuel burn rates (12.2 rich of peak, 10.5 lean of peak (or better)), always provides for at least 4 hours of flight time…..    

So for me it does not really work out to be a good deal.  Just think of how many flights you will have where you will need the fuel………….  

   

Rene  

801-721-6080  

  

       

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Thanks for the replies.  I decided to go ahead and order all of the accessories I will put in the wings (lights, servos, AOA etc.) so there will be no surprises down the road.  It's surprising how much extra you can spend on accessories .  I have been mulling the Safeair tip tanks as well, but at this point the budget won't bear it.  Also, after reading all the great trip reports and thinking about the reality of sitting in the plane for that long, I don't think I will really need them.  

    

   

    

Kent  

    

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 >>> "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred(at)suddenlinkmail.com> 1/21/2010 1:11 PM >>>

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 Kent Ogden wrote:

 Kent;

 

 Few things to think about;

 

 AOA.  I ran my plastic tubing lines thru the same conduit.  Plastic one 

 worked well.  As mentioned, Make sure you have an extra pull string. 

 

 Other things to think about:

 Wingtip lighting  (position /strobe/led/whelen) 

 Will your pitot tube have a heating element for ice?  Will need power 

 and indicator lights. 

 VOR /marker beacon antennae?  Some people put theirs in the wingtip. 

 Temp probe? I put mine in an accessible area  inboard of the innermost 

 inspection plate.

 Do you want a landing light (like duckworks) or go with the wing tip 

 landing lights? 

 

 Start getting a spread sheet of what you want in the wings before you 

 rivet up the lower skin. 

 

 

 Dr Fred

 515FW

 

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