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		DuaneFamly(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Supplied cable is not 1/8 | 
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				Good Day All,
  
 If you are using the Nico measuring tool, then all you are doing is  
 measuring is that the 1/8" sleeve has compressed to the 1/8" required  measurement. 
 But if the cable inside is less than 1/8" (3/32" in this  case) then you may not 
 get the required "bite" onto the cable and it may  fail (pull thru) if there 
 is too much force applied. The tool measurement is  only right if all the 
 correct parts are used.  
 
 Mike Duane  A207A
 Redding, California
 XS Conventional  Gear
 
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		NevEyre(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: Supplied cable is not 1/8 | 
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				Hey Guys,
 I think you will find the cable is supplied in that devious Metric sizing,  
 from memory it is 2.5 thingies. [ Can't even bring myself to type the units of  
 that ''M'' system !]
 If swaged with a nicopress tool, or the ACS swageit tool, the cable will  
 break before the crimp fails. [ tested them, good fun doing that !]
 Cheers,
 Nev.
 
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		rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Supplied cable is not 1/8 | 
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				Hello Jos
 
 "Thanks Nev, you saved me another sleepless night or two"
 
 Me too!
 
 You see I have done a lot of work with 1/8" cables on Hot Air Balloons.
 Had Nico Tool, Nicos and thimbles hanging around.
 
 I just assumed the supplied cable was 1/8". I did a few crimps and it
 looked OK. When drilling some holes for rudder cables to pass through, I
 measured the exact size of cable. It was close to .100". I was angry at
 myself for making such an assumption. I did not have manual when I made
 post, or a Spruce Catalog. After I made post I figured from Spruce and the
 manual that use of a 3/32" Nico and tool is a much more better thing to
 use.
 
 If anyone has used a 1/8" nico and tool, would probably be prudent to go
 to 3/32" nico.
 
 If you read the "Law" (43.13 and McMaster Carr cable/nico section), it
 states not to use galvanized nicos on Stainless Steel cable. I asked
 Factory when I first got kit, and they said if you are splitting hairs,
 but the recommended, Copper or Plated Copper or Stainless Nicos may be
 better , but the Galvanized work just fine for Europa and was tested till
 cable failure with no nico slippage.
 
 Since I had Plated Copper Nicos for SS I was going to use them, and that
 could have gotten me into trouble??
 
 Anyway I feel more comfortable using a slight oversized "Mullieemeter"
 cable in a 3/32" nico, than a .025" undersized "Mullieemeter" cable in a
 1/8" nico. I ordered "Law" plated 3/32" nicos.
 
 Enough words, just want to make sure others don't make my blunder,
 especial on the 4 wheel contrivance.
 
 Ron Parigoris
 
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