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zackrv8

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 133

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

I got to see Tru Trak's RV10 at SNF.  Though not painted yet, the interior looks finished.  I snapped some pics below.



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RV10 # 40512

Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Anybody know what kind of a prop they have on it? It's 3 blade is it an 

MT? or Aero Composite?



Deems Davis # 406

Fuse

http://deemsrv10.com

flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

If it was at Sin/Fun, it is a three blade MT.



On 4/17/06, Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> wrote:

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 Anybody know what kind of a prop they have on it? It's 3 blade is it an

 MT? or Aero Composite?



 Deems Davis # 406

 Fuse

 http://deemsrv10.com

Andrew(at)trutrakap.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

It is aero composite.



Andrew Barker

General Manager

TruTrak Flight Systems

"You build it...We fly it!"

PH:479-751-0250 Ext. 222

www.trutrakap.com

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LessDragProd(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

I talked with one of the TruTrak employees about the propeller.  The  propeller purchased is the most expensive propeller available.  Aero  Composites.

  

 Regards,

 Jim Ayers

  

 In a message dated 04/16/2006 10:05:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  deemsdavis(at)cox.net writes:

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Anybody know what kind of a prop they have    on it? It's 3 blade is it an 

MT? or Aero Composite?



Deems Davis #    406

Fuse

http://deemsrv10.com

deutscht(at)rhwhotels.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Jim Ayers, call me sometime, I have a long lost cousin named Jim Ayers.  I wonder?????????????  

   

#40545  

     

Tom Deutsch  

Office 913 451-1222  

Fax 913 451-6493  

Cell 913 908-7752  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LessDragProd(at)aol.com

 Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 9:40 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

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I talked with one of the TruTrak employees about the propeller.  The propeller purchased is the most expensive propeller available.  Aero Composites.  

    

   

    

Regards,  

    

Jim Ayers  

    

   

    

In a message dated 04/16/2006 10:05:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, deemsdavis(at)cox.net writes:  

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--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net>

 

 Anybody know what kind of a prop they have on it? It's 3 blade is it an 

 MT? or Aero Composite?

 

 Deems Davis # 406

 Fuse

 http://deemsrv10.com

johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:13 pm Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Andrew, there are a lot of lurkers on this list that would love to here

the performance specs when Jim is ready.  There has yet to be a

comprehensive posting of the MT 3 blade performance and many of the 2

blade Hartzell's are just as silent.  This will be the hottest topic at

OSH '06.



I for one would like to hear how Jim likes it.



John Cox



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10flyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

The three blade MT is quiet, runs smooth and looks cool!!! What else do you 

want!!

Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Speed!



Mark Chamberlain wrote:



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 The three blade MT is quiet, runs smooth and looks cool!!! What else 

 do you want!!



 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List

 http://wiki.matronics.com

schmoboy

Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 130

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

On Apr 17, 2006, at 6:38 PM, Mark Chamberlain wrote:



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 <10flyer(at)verizon.net>



 The three blade MT is quiet, runs smooth and looks cool!!! What  

 else do you want!!




	


Performance numbers.



-Sean #40303 (Closing Wings)

johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Coming from you Mark, a flying RV-10 owner, I am a most appreciative

builder.  A head to head with another flying the 2 blade would be great.

Now if both you and Vic could just throw down the gauntlet to all these

New Hartzell boyz and girls (Debbie). It is a lot more useful than just

insults that the AeroComp is much more expensive.  I am hoping Jim

Younkin will take the bruise and join the dialogue anyway.



Thanks Mark.



John - KUAO

Do not Archive.



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deutscht(at)rhwhotels.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

How about a Hartzel blended airfoil three blade?



Tom Deutsch

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LessDragProd(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

How about 90 pounds.

  

 Regards,

 Jim Ayers

  

 In a message dated 04/18/2006 6:38:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  deutscht(at)rhwhotels.com writes:

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		  -->    RV10-List message posted by: "Tom Deutsch"    <deutscht(at)rhwhotels.com>



How about a Hartzel blended airfoil    three blade?



Tom Deutsch

Andrew(at)trutrakap.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Ok, here are the numbers that we got from our test flights earlier in the

year.  We could not remember the air temp.  Engine is IO-540 prop is Aero

Composite 3 Blade.  The 10 is unpainted.



At 7800' - 23" - 2300 RPM - 196 MPH.  We both question this number because

it just doesn't seem like we should be able to get 23 inches of manifold

pressure at 7800'.  But that is what the EIS was showing.  We also did not

have a fuel flow at this altitude.  When we increased the RPM to 2400 we got

202 MPH.



Now at 1000' - 21.5" - 2400 RPM - 14 GPH - 196 MPH.  Once again these are

the numbers that we saw.  They don't seem quite right given the manifold

pressure just seems too high for the altitudes.



We are planning another round of testing in the future and I will post the

numbers as we complete the tests.



We are VERY pleased with the Aero Composite prop.  Flying the 10 with the

540 and 3 blade is amazing.  The 6 cylinder and 3 blade combo are so very

smooth that you think that you are in a turbine.  The only thing that I

don't like about the 3 blade is taking the danged cowling off and putting it

back on!  

Oh and for those that wish to know we have about 90 hours on the 10 now and

it is a fantastic aircraft.



Andrew Barker

General Manager

TruTrak Flight Systems

"You build it...We fly it!"

PH:479-751-0250 Ext. 222

www.trutrakap.com

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LessDragProd(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:09 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Hi John,

  

 I believe you misread what I wrote.  I didn't think the TruTrak  employee was trying to be insulting at all.  Just that what was perceived  as the best propeller available was purchased.

  

 I understand the AeroComposites propeller used has a  blade designed for a faster aircraft with a 350 hp engine.   I did wonder how will it performs.  Another unknown amounts many.  

  

 Regards,

 Jim Ayers

 Do Not Archive

  

 In a message dated 04/17/2006 7:18:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com writes:

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		  -->    RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox"    <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>



Coming from you Mark, a flying RV-10    owner, I am a most appreciative

builder.  A head to head with another    flying the 2 blade would be great.

Now if both you and Vic could just throw    down the gauntlet to all these

New Hartzell boyz and girls (Debbie). It is    a lot more useful than just

insults that the AeroComp is much more    expensive.  I am hoping Jim

Younkin will take the bruise and join the    dialogue anyway.



Thanks Mark.



John - KUAO

Do not    Archive.

10flyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

I like speed as well!! However, lets say the two blade is 10kts faster(??). 

On a 3000nm trip the two blade guy will get there about an hour earlier. 

That's nice, but the trade-offs you get with the three blade might not make 

that 1 hr worth it. There are definately advantages/dissadvantages to both. 

The question becomes prioritizing them, speed/weight/smoothness(on your 40k 

engine)/ climb perf./ and of course looks. I will admit, taking the bottom 

cowl off with the three blade is not easy. So far I am very happy with my 

three blade MT. I know other guys are very happy with there blended 

Hartzells. Fortunately for all of us, the airplane is still the best part of 

this whole discussion. Cheers, Mark (55hrs)

Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Mark, what is the issue in removing the bottom cowl with a 3 bld prop?



Deems



Mark Chamberlain wrote:



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 I like speed as well!! However, lets say the two blade is 10kts 

 faster(??). On a 3000nm trip the two blade guy will get there about an 

 hour earlier. That's nice, but the trade-offs you get with the three 

 blade might not make that 1 hr worth it. There are definately 

 advantages/dissadvantages to both. The question becomes prioritizing 

 them, speed/weight/smoothness(on your 40k engine)/ climb perf./ and of 

 course looks. I will admit, taking the bottom cowl off with the three 

 blade is not easy. So far I am very happy with my three blade MT. I 

 know other guys are very happy with there blended Hartzells. 

 Fortunately for all of us, the airplane is still the best part of this 

 whole discussion. Cheers, Mark (55hrs)



 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List

 http://wiki.matronics.com

jjessen(at)rcn.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

I haven't gotten far enough to look at costs.  Has anyone done a

cost/performance/attribute comparison and got it on a spreadsheet somewhere?

John Jessen

  ~328 (deep in buildus interruptus once again, which is really getting

annoying.)



do not archive 



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:51 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

Amen to that Mark.  There are so many varieties of EFIS / Engine / Prop

and everything else to choose from, but when it comes right down to

it, you're building a -10, so you're just gonna have a great plane,

period.  (as long as you take the time to do good work)



And at certain times, you'll recognize the advantages and

disadvantages of all the choices, because every item has both.

But, you'll still be happy with your plane.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Mark Chamberlain wrote:



"Fortunately for all of us, the airplane is still the best part of this 

whole discussion."

Andrew(at)trutrakap.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: Tru Trak's RV10

I will second that Amen.



Andrew Barker

General Manager

TruTrak Flight Systems

"You build it...We fly it!"

PH:479-751-0250 Ext. 222

www.trutrakap.com



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