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richvetterli(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: Y stick problem

I'm getting close to finishing my plane and I'm trying to solve one small problem.  I installed the center "Y" stick, which I love.  However, I'm a big guy and left part of the "Y" strikes my right leg, preventing full aileron deflection.  I've thought about cutting off the "y" and going with a straight center stick.  One other option that I'm thinking about is fabricating a pivoting crossbar off of the center stick, with two grips on the ends (like a Robinson R22).  Any thought, pro or con.  



Rich Vetterli

Pleasanton, CA

601XL/Corvair

Check out my progress at: www.geocities.com/stixx5a

hills(at)sunflower.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: Y stick problem

Rich;



I have a Y stick myself, never used full aileron deflection though in

flight.  If I did, I think I'd flip the plane over as most my inputs are in

the %10 to %50 stick defection range, even when maneuvering hard at low

speeds.  



Roger

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DaveG601XL

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: Cincinnati, Oh

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Y stick problem

Rich,



Same here.  I am a big guy too and do not have a problem in flight with the center Y-stick.  To perform full deflection left, I would have to move my right leg over.  This has not had to happen in flight.  Since you say that you are pretty close to being complete, you should go ahead and fly with it as is first.  Then, if you still think you need to change it, you will know exactly what you want.



Good luck,

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David Gallagher
Cincinnati, OH area

sonar1@cox.net

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Santa Barbara, Ca

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: Y stick problem

I cut mine off, and it works just fine.....Fred Sanford   N9601

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sonar1@cox.net

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Santa Barbara, Ca

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:54 am Post subject: Y stick problem

I cut mine off. Tried to attach pix to previous message  - didn't work. 

Try this:



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Fred Sanford  N9601 do not archive

naumuk(at)windstream.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: Y stick problem

Fred-

    Very interesting. Are you flying? Cutting down the stick a bit would 

reduce the leverage and help smooth out some of the pitch sensitivity I keep 

hearing about.

    If you are flying, do you have any flying builders out your way equipped 

with the Y stick? I'd be interested to hear an appraisal of the "Feel" 

characteristics of both setups.

                                                                             

        Bill

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larry(at)macsmachine.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: Y stick problem

Hi Bill,

I find the Y-stick really helpful for getting in and out of the plane. 

In flight the stick allows my GPS to be mounted on the vertical portion 

below and extend above and between the handles. This is helpful to 

change GPS settings or even batteries while still being able to fly the 

plane. I like the Y-stick and think it feels very natural from either 

seat. See link,

http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/airmap500mt2.gif 



Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com

Bill Naumuk wrote:

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 Fred-

    Very interesting. Are you flying? Cutting down the stick a bit 

 would reduce the leverage and help smooth out some of the pitch 

 sensitivity I keep hearing about.

    If you are flying, do you have any flying builders out your way 

 equipped with the Y stick? I'd be interested to hear an appraisal of 

 the "Feel" characteristics of both setups.

                                                                             

        Bill

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sonar1@cox.net

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Santa Barbara, Ca

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: Y stick problem

Bill, I have the Y stick in my 701, and I have the shortened stick in my 

601. Two different planes - but I see no difference. The shortened stick 

allows me to relax my forearm on the center divider. I have seen that 

others have had to add cushions to the center divider for flying with 

the Y stick. As far as vertical sensitivity, I feel that the the 

wandering comes from the plane and air currents  rather than  lack of 

response in the stick,,,,,,,Fred   N9601   do not archive

pmaxpmax(at)HOTMAIL.COM
Guest

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:27 am Post subject: Y stick problem

I have the standard length Y stick and enjoy it.  As most everyone is saying the plane is sensitive to control input particularly in pitch. For that reason, and comfort, I almost always fly with my forearm on the arm rest and grasping the stick below the Y, effectively shortening the stick. I put my hands back on the normal grip area only when I need to use the radio (that's where the PTT button is) or during take off and landing.  You should be OK if you shorten it some. 



Phil Maxson

601XL

Northwest New Jersey

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DaveG601XL

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: Cincinnati, Oh

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:57 am Post subject: Re: Y stick problem

You guys have seen others do this, and most AMD's also, take the opportunity to turn the center arm rest into a storage box.  Here is mine.  The box top pivots towards the passenger seat and allows enough room for my wallet, keys, extra pens, small LED flashlights, etc.  The aft portion has a drink holder for a water bottle.  



When I have my roll axis AP engaged, I too find myself holding the stick just below the Y to control altitude.



Love the Y-stick!

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