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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

List,

I am looking fro some seat foam.

On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars.

Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

Rich

Don't get that memory seat foam like I got , when it gets cold, it forgets
and turns hard as a rock !!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

List,

I am looking for some seat foam.

On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars.

Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price?
Thanks,

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Rich Simmons

Rich, I have the address at home. I will post it as soon
as I can. The place is in Wichita, KS, and is a bit pricey, but it is
memory foam. I bought mine a couple of years ago and a 4'X4' sheet (half
sheet) 1" thick was $54. I got three half sheets in three densities and
that is plenty to do the two seats. What griped my hind side was the $48
shipping fee. Total was a little over $200. That still beats the $260
unless they have raised the prices.
Good Luck and God Bless!
Rick
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Seat Foam Reply with quote

Rich,

I would have liked to have gotten off cheaper, but I really wanted memory foam. I spent around $230 for the foam on both my seats. I bought like 5 each of the blue and green (firm and firmer) from Wicks. I bought a king sized memory foam mattress topper from Wal-Mart for the soft stuff. If I had to do it again, I would not use the really hard green foam and use all blue for the support portions. I like it even when it is cold. After a few minutes it warms up and I sink right down into it.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

http://www.seatfoam.com/

Hi-Tech Foams

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

Jim and Janice Fix of Lincoln, Nebraska, are regulars at most aviation conventions selling their Confor Foam products (which have saved my rear in various airplanes over the last 15 years). It meets FAA burn specs for certified aircraft as well, and I've redone the seats in two Grumman Tigers and a Varga Kachina so far. The T-Cat is next.

It's a bit heavier than the typical cheap foam and it's not cheap for the three density, three inch thick sandwich that's best for seat bottoms, but man, does it pay off in comfort!

Check out their website at www.seatfoam.com for contact info, unfortunately I didn't see any pricing info posted. The last time I bought a couple of squares for a Tiger, I think the total for two seats was around $120. But that was awhile ago.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

Jim and Janice Fix of Lincoln, Nebraska, are regulars at most aviation conventions
selling their Confor Foam products

They are regulars but their prices are the highest. Wicks has the same foam (Temprafoam/Confoam) for much more reasonable prices. Get blue and pink, you don't need the hard green stuff.

check out http://www.ch601.org/resources/foam_seat/foam_seat_construction.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: Seat Foam Reply with quote

When I called a couple of months ago Hi-Tech Foams quoted me $259 +shipping for their 601 package.

I've attached the flyer they sent.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would
recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate
assemblies for easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat
backs forward out of the way for access behind the seat without
worrying about cracking the foam in cold weather.
On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Gig Giacona wrote:

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When I called a couple of months ago Hi-Tech Foams quoted me $259
+shipping for their 601 package.

I've attached the flyer they sent.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Seat Foam Reply with quote

That is exactly what I plan to do. I also ordered an extra piece of the soft softer foam for an arm rest and to add lumbar supports.

This thread reminded me I needed to order and did this morning. And the price is still the same.
bryanmmartin wrote:
The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would
recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate
assemblies for easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat
backs forward out of the way for access behind the seat without
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 11:53:40AM -0500, Bryan Martin wrote:
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The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would
recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate assemblies for
easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat backs forward out
of the way for access behind the seat without worrying about cracking the
foam in cold weather.

This is the way AMD does it. The seat backs, from the hinge up, are one
piece; the bottoms are another. The seat bottoms are attached by Velcro at
the front, and dom't move at all unless you want them to. Works very well.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

If you just want to buy memory foam you can get it at Jo Ann Fabrics
Store, I think I paid about $90 for twin bed sheet of foam. I can't be
sure because it was a couple of years ago.
Tim Shankland

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Rich,

I would have liked to have gotten of cheaper, but I really wanted memory foam. I spent around $230 for the foam on both my seats. I bought like 5 each of the blue and green (firm and firmer) from Wicks. I bought a king sized memory foam mattress topper from Wal-Mart for the soft stuff. If I had to do it again, I would not use the really hard green foam and use all blue for the support portions. I like it even when it is cold. After a few minutes it warms up and I sink right down into it.

Good luck,

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Seat foam Reply with quote

Hi Rick,
I went thru this same problem a few years back and bought $150 worth of
foam and started laminating and gluing it into a monster block. Then I
got a local upholsterer to look at it. It would have been hundreds more
to get it upholstered. A few weeks later I was at Aircraft Spruce and
saw their "booster seats" by Nelson in the showroom and had a brain
storm (fart) and bought two of them. I unzipped the side and bottom
panel and replaced the cheap white foam with memory foam. The vendors
of memory foam usually sell exactly the same size of pad as the original
ones that come in the seats.
It saved me hundreds of bucks and looks nice, and ended my
upholstery problems. You just set the booster in the seat pan directly
over the bare metal. You can get to the access area behind the seats
easily, and by adding or removing foam it's adjustable for height and
back support. Here is the link to the cushion boosters:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/booster.php. They
come in a nice conservative gray color and you can put more or less foam
in them to customize a lumbar support or increase the butt cushioning.
One of mine is a little thicker in the seat area so I just swap cushions
with the passenger if that works better.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: Seat Foam Reply with quote

This is an example of why this forum is so important. I really appreciate all of the good responses and ideas on this topic.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: Seat foam Reply with quote

How well does this conform to the curved bottom of the seat pan?
Do you have any pictures of this, the one at AS is not very good?

Kevin
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rdewees(at)mindspring.com wrote:
A few weeks later I was at Aircraft Spruce and
saw their "booster seats" by Nelson in the showroom and had a brain
storm (fart) and bought two of them. I unzipped the side and bottom
panel and replaced the cheap white foam with memory foam. The vendors
of memory foam usually sell exactly the same size of pad as the original
ones that come in the seats..
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:12 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

I didn't use the ACS pads, but here is how I made mine fit the bottom seat pan. I kerfed a piece of 1/4" plywood, pressed it down in the seat pan and filled the kerfs with epoxy. When the epoxy dried, the plywood retained the shape of the pan. Then I glued the foam to the plywood. The seat covers are from Pep Boys.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

I built a mock-up of the seat out of plywood and scrap aluminum sheet
and built up my seat foam on the mock-up. When you glue the layers of
foam together in the mock-up, they will retain the shape of the seat
bottom. My seats are just the foam covered with cloth upholstery. The
seat bottom sits directly on the aluminum seat pan. I filled in the
gaps at the sides of the aluminum sheet seat pan with high density
poly foam to get a consistent surface the full width of the seat
bottom and used a sheet of 3/16 plywood for the seat back.

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How well does this conform to the curved bottom of the seat pan?
Do you have any pictures of this, the one at AS is not very good?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Seat Foam Reply with quote

Jay-
Uh, I always thought the tires were supposed to go on the OUTSIDE of the plane.
You know I'm kidding- good ideas.
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You've never seen a retractable XL ? (:>O

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