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4RCSIMMONS(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: Seat Foam

List,



I am looking fro some seat foam.



On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars.



Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price?

Thanks,



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Rich Simmons



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hills(at)sunflower.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: Seat Foam

Rich



Don't get that memory seat foam like I got , when it gets cold, it forgets

and turns hard as a rock !!!!



Roger



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Rickey B.

Joined: 22 Mar 2008
Posts: 70

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: Seat Foam

List,



I am looking for some seat foam.



On the forum Monday night I got one address and it was $260 dollars.



Any ideas or places you are aware of I can cut this price?

Thanks,



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Thanks,

Rich Simmons



		Rich, I have the address at home. I will post it as soon

as I can. The place is in Wichita, KS, and is a bit pricey, but it is

memory foam. I bought mine a couple of years ago and a 4'X4' sheet (half

sheet) 1" thick was $54. I got three half sheets in three densities and

that is plenty to do the two seats. What griped my hind side was the $48

shipping fee. Total was a little over $200. That still beats the $260

unless they have raised the prices.

		Good Luck and God Bless!

			Rick

	www.sharbo.us/thebird  



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DaveG601XL

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: Cincinnati, Oh

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Seat Foam

Rich,



I would have liked to have gotten off cheaper, but I really wanted memory foam.  I spent around $230 for the foam on both my seats.  I bought like 5 each of the blue and green (firm and firmer) from Wicks.  I bought a king sized memory foam mattress topper from Wal-Mart for the soft stuff.  If I had to do it again, I would not use the really hard green foam and use all blue for the support portions.  I like it even when it is cold.  After a few minutes it warms up and I sink right down into it.



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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: Seat Foam

http://www.seatfoam.com/



Hi-Tech Foams    



Jim & Janice Fix



3710 Air Park Rd.

Lincoln, NE 68524

402/470-2346



-- Craig



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tigerrick(at)mindspring.c
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: Seat Foam

Jim and Janice Fix of Lincoln, Nebraska, are regulars at most aviation conventions selling their Confor Foam products (which have saved my rear in various airplanes over the last 15 years). It meets FAA burn specs for certified aircraft as well, and I've redone the seats in two Grumman Tigers and a Varga Kachina so far. The T-Cat is next.



It's a bit heavier than the typical cheap foam and it's not cheap for the three density, three inch thick sandwich that's best for seat bottoms, but man, does it pay off in comfort!



Check out their website at www.seatfoam.com for contact info, unfortunately I didn't see any pricing info posted.  The last time I bought a couple of squares for a Tiger, I think the total for two seats was around $120. But that was awhile ago.



Rick Lindstrom



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tjs22t(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: Seat Foam

Jim and Janice Fix of Lincoln, Nebraska, are regulars at  most aviation conventions

selling their Confor Foam products 

  

 They are regulars but their prices are the highest.   Wicks has the same foam (Temprafoam/Confoam) for much more reasonable  prices.  Get blue and pink, you don't need the hard green  stuff.

  

 check out  http://www.ch601.org/resources/foam_seat/foam_seat_construction.htm

  

 CAVU  jeff

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Seat Foam

When I called a couple of months ago Hi-Tech Foams quoted me $259 +shipping for their 601 package.



I've attached the flyer they sent.

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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: Seat Foam

The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would  

recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate  

assemblies for easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat  

backs forward out of the way for access behind the seat without  

worrying about cracking the foam in cold weather.

On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Gig Giacona wrote:



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 When I called a couple of months ago Hi-Tech Foams quoted me $259  

 +shipping for their 601 package.



 I've attached the flyer they sent.



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Seat Foam

That is exactly what I plan to do. I also ordered an extra piece of the soft softer foam for an arm rest and to add lumbar supports.



This thread reminded me I needed to order and did this morning. And the price is still the same.

 	  bryanmmartin wrote: 	
		  The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would  

recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate  

assemblies for easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat  

backs forward out of the way for access behind the seat without  

worrying about cracking the foam in cold weather.

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jmaynard

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 394
Location: Fairmont, MN (FRM)

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: Seat Foam

On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 11:53:40AM -0500, Bryan Martin wrote:

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		   The design shown in the flyer is a good place to start, but I would 

 recommend making the seat backs and seat bottoms as separate assemblies for 

 easier removal and handling. Then you can flip the seat backs forward out 

 of the way for access behind the seat without worrying about cracking the 

 foam in cold weather.


	


This is the way AMD does it. The seat backs, from the hinge up, are one

piece; the bottoms are another. The seat bottoms are attached by Velcro at

the front, and dom't move at all unless you want them to. Works very well.

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http://jmaynard.livejournal.com       http://www.tronguy.net

Fairmont, MN (KFRM)                        (Yes, that's me!)

AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml

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tshankland(at)sbcglobal.n
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: Seat Foam

If you just want to buy memory foam you can get it at Jo Ann Fabrics 

Store, I think I paid about $90 for  twin bed sheet of foam. I can't be 

sure because it was a couple of years ago.

Tim Shankland



DaveG601XL wrote:



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Rich,



I would have liked to have gotten of cheaper, but I really wanted memory foam.  I spent around $230 for the foam on both my seats.  I bought like 5 each of the blue and green (firm and firmer) from Wicks.  I bought a king sized memory foam mattress topper from Wal-Mart for the soft stuff.  If I had to do it again, I would not use the really hard green foam and use all blue for the support portions.  I like it even when it is cold.  After a few minutes it warms up and I sink right down into it.



Good luck,



--------

David Gallagher

601 XL/Jabiru 3300

First flight 7/24/08

Phase I flight test complete 10/16/08





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Ken

Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 15

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Seat Foam

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rdewees(at)mindspring.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: Seat foam

Hi Rick,

I went thru this same problem a few years back and bought $150 worth of 

foam and started laminating and gluing it into a monster block.  Then I 

got a local upholsterer to look at it. It would have been hundreds more 

to get it upholstered. A few weeks later I was at Aircraft Spruce and 

saw their "booster seats" by Nelson in the showroom and had a brain 

storm (fart) and bought two of them.  I unzipped the side and bottom 

panel and replaced the cheap white foam with memory foam.  The vendors 

of memory foam usually sell exactly the same size of pad as the original 

ones that come in the seats.

      It saved me hundreds of bucks and looks nice, and ended my 

upholstery problems. You just set the booster in the seat pan directly 

over the bare metal.  You can get to the access area behind the seats 

easily, and  by adding or removing foam it's adjustable for height and 

back support.  Here is the link to the cushion boosters:  

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/booster.php.      They 

come in a nice conservative gray color and you can put more or less foam 

in them to customize a lumbar support or increase the butt cushioning. 

One of mine is a little thicker in the seat area so I just swap cushions 

with the passenger if that works better. 

  Good luck

Ron

N601TD

TxDave

Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Posts: 168
Location: Temple, TX

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Seat Foam

This is an example of why this forum is so important. I really appreciate all of the good responses and ideas on this topic.



Dave Clay

Temple, TX

kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Seat foam

How well does this conform to the curved bottom of the seat pan?

Do you have any pictures of this, the one at AS is not very good?



Kevin

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 	  rdewees(at)mindspring.com wrote: 	
		  A few weeks later I was at Aircraft Spruce and 

saw their "booster seats" by Nelson in the showroom and had a brain 

storm (fart) and bought two of them.  I unzipped the side and bottom 

panel and replaced the cheap white foam with memory foam.  The vendors 

of memory foam usually sell exactly the same size of pad as the original 

ones that come in the seats.. 

  Good luck

Ron

N601TD

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jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:12 am Post subject: Seat Foam

I didn't use  the ACS pads, but here is how I made mine fit the bottom seat pan.  I kerfed a piece of 1/4" plywood, pressed it down in the seat pan and filled the kerfs with epoxy. When the epoxy dried, the plywood retained the shape of the pan.  Then I glued the foam to the plywood.  The seat covers are from Pep Boys.

 

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bryanmmartin

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: Seat Foam

I built a mock-up of the seat out of plywood and scrap aluminum sheet  

and built up my seat foam on the mock-up. When you glue the layers of  

foam together in the mock-up, they will retain the shape of the seat  

bottom. My seats are just the foam covered with cloth upholstery. The  

seat bottom sits directly on the aluminum seat pan. I filled in the  

gaps at the sides of the aluminum sheet seat pan with high density  

poly foam to get a consistent surface the full width of the seat  

bottom and used a sheet of 3/16 plywood for the seat back.



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 How well does this conform to the curved bottom of the seat pan?

 Do you have any pictures of this, the one at AS is not very good?



 Kevin

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: Seat Foam

Jay-

     Uh, I always thought the tires  were supposed to go on the OUTSIDE of the plane. 

     You know I'm kidding- good  ideas.

                                                                         Bill

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jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: Seat Foam

You've never seen a retractable XL ? (:>O

 

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