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		nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: What is the best value battery right   now? | 
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				At 09:30 AM 10/3/2008 -0700, you wrote:
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 I have an RV-8 with an IO-360 180 hp engine and need to replace the 
 current battery. I think it is a RG-25XC. In past topics I've seen the 
 Odessey PC-680 mentioned along with the Powersonic (?) PS-12180, Panasonic 
 LC-X1220P and a LC-RD1217P.
 
 Is there a current favorite that can be found for a reasonable price? If 
 so, please post name, model, and a good source.
 
 Thanks,
 
 John
 
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    How do you quantify "value"? Lacking data beyond statements
    like "My brand Z battery has been in the airplane 5 years
    and it still starts my engine" what qualities in a battery
    are most important to you. Further, how much $time$ are you
    willing to spend to acquire, maintain and monitor that battery
    for ability to meet your design goals?
 
    If you're a day vfr airplane, don't care about alternator-out
    endurance and will accept a risk of having to hand-prop the engine
    or replace a battery off the home field, then anecdotal offerings
    of 5-year service life may be useful to you.
 
    On the other hand, if you have a design goal of x.x hours alternator-
    out operation of the endurance bus then meeting the design goal
    is driven not only by the demonstrated robustness of the battery
    but your willingness to do periodic capacity tests to make sure
    the design goals are not violated.
 
    Right now, periodic capacity testing involves either running
    your e-bus from the battery and seeing how long it takes to
    get down to 11.0 volts -or- doing on-purpose capacity measurements
    with some device like . .
 
 http://westmountainradio.com/CBA.htm
 
    that will allow you to do a precise evaluation of your
    battery's ability to perform.
 
    Here's where you have to make a judgement of value based
    on the economics of $time$. You buy a battery for $time$,
    buy a piece of test equipment for $time$ and then invest
    $time$ at each determination for continued airworthiness
    against your design goals. Nobody can advise you as to
    the trade offs without knowing your personal quantification
    on $time$.
 
    I've often suggested that the highest value batter is that
    which meets all design goals with a minimum expenditure
    of $time$. Consider that if you buy the least expensive battery
    you can find, say  . . .
 
 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=522-1014-ND
 
 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=P231-ND
 
 http://www.batteryuniverse.com/Sealed-Lead-Acid/CSB/GH12170/GZ12180NB_CSB_GH12170_Sealed-Lead-Acid
 
    and divide the cost of acquisition by hours flown per year
    and simply replace it every annual, you now have a hard data
    number for the cost of meeting your design goals.
 
    Periodic replacement of an inexpensive battery eliminates
    the $time$ one is tempted to invest in a $high-quality$ battery,
    $test-equipment$ and the $time$ to exercise that equipment
    until the battery finally shows that it's no longer airworthy.
 
    That's a decision that nobody can make for you. Further,
    lacking that detail in a value-study, your choice of product
    made from the anecdotal influences here on the List are
    not much better than basing it on a television advertisement.
    You will find a host of experiences ranging from "that's a
    piece of trash" to "best battery since they started slicing
    bread". Nobody is lying to you. Maybe nobody is trying to
    persuade you. But if you NEED for the battery to perform
    to some expectations for alternator-out endurance, none of
    this will be useful data for getting the most return on
    expenditure of your flying dollars.
 
    Bob . . .
 
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: What is the best value battery right   now? | 
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