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rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.n
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

Curious, what is the fastest groundspeed anyone has seen in a Europa for

at least a half hour?



At what altitude?



Ron Parigoris

M.Grass(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

Ron,



Isn't this absolute meaningless?



I would understand and think it would be meaningful to get  max indicated 

airspeed with what type (tri or mono) and what engine and at what pressure 

altitude.



Just my thought about this.



Michael Grass



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rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.n
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

Hello Michael



"Ron, Isn't this absolute meaningless?"



I am a balloonist. I have an interest machines that are pursuaded to take

advantage of the atmosphere moving from high pressure to a lower pressure.



There are many a balloonist that break the hundred per hour mark.



Just wondering if a Europa has broken the 300MPH mark.



To me that is not meaningless, it means that a Europa pilot maneuvered his

craft in position with a hundred MPH tailwind.



Right conditions (Jetstream), perhaps glider wings, oxygen and I don't

think that 400MPH is out the question.



Choosing to fly when in favorable conditions can and does play an

important role into ultimate speed of a aircraft. Choose a day to fly to

Florida from New York on the East side of a powerful high pressure area,

and return on the West side and see if that does not put a smile on ones

face, even if flying a slug.



Sincerely

Ron Parigoris

jthursby(at)tampabay.rr.c
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

Hi Ron, 

I have seen 252 knots coming home from WA (at) 21,000. 



 Jim T.



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BEBERRY(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:57 am Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

In a message dated 15/03/2006 00:34:18 GMT Standard Time,  

M.Grass(at)comcast.net writes:



Ron,



Isn't this absolute meaningless?



I would  understand and think it would be meaningful to get  max indicated  

airspeed with what type (tri or mono) and what engine and at what  pressure 

altitude.



Agreed.  Fastest speed would depend on altitude, temperature,  wind 

direction, type of engine, speed kit or not, weight of crew,  passengers, fuel and 

luggage and a host of other variables.  My  experience is mostly with military 

aircraft and graphs to show indicated  airspeed against fuel consumption are 

basic to pilot's notes.  There  is no absolute equivalent in the GA or PFA world, 

even allowing for  different builds.

 

Patrick

NevEyre(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

I claim the fastest ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming  off 

the Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa  

trigear trailer !

Does that count ?

Cheers,

Nev.

hdwysong(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

... doesn't count unless you were riding in it, Nev.  You can claim to 

have the world's fastest high-speed taxi test of an UNMANNED Europa, 

though.  



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NevEyre(at)aol.com wrote:

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 I claim the fastest ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming  off 

 the Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa  

 trigear trailer !

 Does that count ?

 Cheers,

 Nev.

rmrrick(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

hdwysong(at)gmail.com wrote:



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.... doesn't count unless you were riding in it, Nev.  You can claim to 

have the world's fastest high-speed taxi test of an UNMANNED Europa, 

though.  



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NevEyre(at)aol.com wrote:

  



>

>

>I claim the fastest ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming  off 

>the Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa  

>trigear trailer !

>Does that count ?

>Cheers,

>Nev.

>    

>

 

 

 



  



Not bad behind a rusty old AVENGER!?

topglock(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

Can't come anywhere close to that, but N55XS has seen 181 kts at 3,000 

feet, in cruise... 



Jeff - N55XS

Doing 150 hr check and adding a new Trio autopilot, while at it... 



James wrote:



[quote]



Hi Ron, 

I have seen 252 knots coming home from WA (at) 21,000. 



 Jim T.



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Trevpond(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

In a message dated 15/03/2006 23:04:45 GMT Standard Time, NevEyre(at)aol.com  

writes:






I claim the fastest  ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming  

off 

the  Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa   

trigear trailer !

Does that count  ?

Cheers,

Nev.



Only if you weren't strapped on!!

 

Trev

hurstkr(at)growzone.com.a
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:47 am Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

 	  Quote: 	
		   I claim the fastest ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming 

 off

 the Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa

 trigear trailer !


	


Sorry Nev but I don't believe you.  You would not have enough room to get up 

to the Ton in that country lest you would run off the edge !!

Hang on ! are you talking a Ton of Kilometres or a Ton of Miles ?  If you 

are talking K's, then you might just about be able to do it but you must 

have had good brakes !



Your humble and obedient antipodean Cousin - obviously about to be sent to 

the next colony.



Kingsley



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NevEyre(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

Hi Kingsly,

If you had ever been in my Workshop, you would know Metric is totally  

forbidden !

I only use proper Imperial measurements, I can assure you it was miles per  

hour. 

The metric system was invented by ''cheese eating surrender monkeys'' They  

are welcome to keep it to themselves.I am quite happy with ounces, pounds,  

pints, gallons, inch, feet, yards and miles thank you very much.

God save the Queen.

Cheers,

Nev.

Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

NevEyre(at)aol.com a crit :



 	  Quote: 	
		  If you had ever been in my Workshop, you would know Metric is totally  

forbidden !

I only use proper Imperial measurements, I can assure you it was miles per  

hour. 

The metric system was invented by ''cheese eating surrender monkeys'' They  

are welcome to keep it to themselves.I am quite happy with ounces, pounds,  

pints, gallons, inch, feet, yards and miles thank you very much.

God save the Queen.

  



Hey Nev,
	




Of course you installed some engine made in the colonies, Jab or Lyc, 

with imperial nuts and bolts ?

I suggest you rename your plane "Britannia" )

Regards,

Gilles Thesee

Grenoble, France

Just one of the 6 billion other metric monkeys...



http://contrails.free.fr

BEBERRY(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

In a message dated 16/03/2006 22:02:00 GMT Standard Time,  NevEyre(at)aol.com 

writes:



Hi  Kingsly,

If you had ever been in my Workshop, you would know Metric  is totally  

forbidden !

I only use proper Imperial  measurements, I can assure you it was miles per  

hour. 

The  metric system was invented by ''cheese eating surrender monkeys''  They  

are welcome to keep it to themselves.I am quite happy  with ounces, pounds,  

pints, gallons, inch, feet, yards and  miles thank you very much.

God save the  Queen.

Cheers,

Nev.





Well said Nev..... why the hell should we be conned into accepting a  French 

Revolutionary method of mensuration ( have to be careful how I  spell that!).  

I do the same.  Interesting that I have NEVER  heard anyone boast abut how 

many Km to the Ltr they get out of their car  or aeroplane even amongst the Euro 

enthusiasts.

 

Patrick

hurstkr(at)growzone.com.a
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa?

Nev,



Hope you understood my accidental cynical remark.  When I said you would

run off the edge, I meant the edge of the country not the edge of the

road !  <grin>



Shame on you Nev for not accepting the metric system however, I have to

admit you do have a point.  I remember reading once why the French

always used the guillotine instead of the gallows, the reason being

there was no exact metric equivalent for the drop on the gallows so they

could never get it to work properly!  Not sure if you knew this little

bit of trivia mate ?



You also remind me of a bloke we used to have here at work.  He was

responsible for spraying noxious weeds.  When he recorded the amount of

poison used, because he hated metric, he would write something like 2/3

of 3/4 of 1/2 a Cup.  That was much simpler than saying 200ml or

whatever !!



Anyway, we can settle all this stuff next year 'cause I'm comin ova ta

say gidday.  Hope you'll be around !



Best

Kingsley



PS I note you called me Kingsly - were you inferring something when you

dropped out the 'e' in the last four letters ??  

Cheers



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