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dougsnash



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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

John, are you sure about the 750 being available as
plans? In this day and age and given what happened
with the 701 knock offs, I can't imagine Zenith
offering plans for 750. Someone mentioned this just
after Sun and Fun but I don't see it happening.
Absolutely AWESOME if it is true but I just don't see
it.

Another 750 question. Has anyone heard if the
prototype will be at Oshkosh? The pictures that were
posted on here a few months ago looked very
interesting. Interesting enough to almost make me
willing to try building a kit as opposed to scratch
building my next project. But if the 750 is going to
be available as plans, WOW, I'm in.

Lets all hope.

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
working on fuel system

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I ASSUME that the news that the 750 was also gonna
be avail as plans built
made it to the list ??
LO&SLO John


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

I spoke with Roger at the Quality Sport Planes open house about the 750. He
said they would be accepting orders for wing (and I think tail) kits at
Oshkosh.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

I got it from a friend of mine that spoke directly to Sebastian at Sun &
Fun about it, he'll chime in here if he wishes.
Surprised me too. Hope they don't change their mind. John

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

Do we know anything about the flying characteristics? I mean details? I assume it will have similar performance but are there any numbers?

I also wonder about engines. The 701 is so great but that engine is so expensive...

And then there's 20 plus years of history vs. zero. I know it's a very similar design but this still means something.

I've finished my rudder but may consider the 750 if it's "real"...

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

The larger size may open up the engine choices a lot. But it still needs a lot of thrust to compete with the 701 capabilities. Who knows maybe I'll be able to buy a 701 cheap in August after EAA Wink
I honestly think the 701 will continue as its STOL capabilities are hard to beat and its proven, we will just have more choices.
Kevin

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

Greetings,

Just got back from the Zenith workshop. I was told that " The Plan"
was to roll out the 750 at OSH. The current "Plan" is to offer the 750 as a
kit and to offer plans. I built an 801 rudder and purchased a tail kit, but
I'm waiting to see what happens before I put much more work into the 801.
The 750 looks like the perfect LSA STOL aircraft to me, or as close as I've
seen.

Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN

"Hope for the best,
but prepare for the worst."

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

This is great news, and makes good sense! All the move toward ready-built high-cost LSA is getting way out of reach. The sheet metal Zenith designs are so well-suited to plans building that it would be a real shame to not have this option.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

All the talk of not publishing plans for the 750 in order to prevent other manufacturers copying the aircraft kind of misses the point. If someone wanted to copy a sheet metal aircraft like that theyd buy a kit, take those full-size patterns to a CNC punch, set it up to make identical copies, and theyre in production. Much easier than working thro plans. Not publishing plans is no protection at all, so might as well provide the plans so that us homebuilders can have the satisfaction of puzzling our way through them.

Looking forward to <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />OSH.

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

Raymond,
If you look at the page describing the 750 on the Zenith site, you'll
see that they intend to offer it as an LSA, but no plans will be offered.

Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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<raymondj(at)frontiernet.net>

Greetings,

Just got back from the Zenith workshop. I was told that " The
Plan" was to roll out the 750 at OSH. The current "Plan" is to offer
the 750 as a kit and to offer plans. I built an 801 rudder and
purchased a tail kit, but I'm waiting to see what happens before I put
much more work into the 801. The 750 looks like the perfect LSA STOL
aircraft to me, or as close as I've seen.

Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

A very valid point JG but keep in mind, how many 701
rip offs are there? Now, how many 801 rip offs are
there?

For $400.00 they've got a set of plans that they could
base their "new" design on. Reverse engineering a kit
would likely cost them closer to twenty thousand just
to get the kit. Very much possible but not as likely
as the $400.00 plans.

As I said in an earlier post, I am very much in favor
of them offering plans. I would definately get a set
at some point. I can also understand them wanting to
provide some sort of protection against being ripped
off again.

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada

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--- JG <vgstol(at)bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Quote:
This is great news, and makes good sense! All the
move toward ready-built high-cost LSA is getting way
out of reach. The sheet metal Zenith designs are so
well-suited to plans building that it would be a
real shame to not have this option.

All the talk of not publishing plans for the 750 in
order to prevent other manufacturers copying the
aircraft kind of misses the point. If someone
wanted to copy a sheet metal aircraft like that
they'd buy a kit, take those full-size patterns to a
CNC punch, set it up to make identical copies, and
they're in production. Much easier than working
thro plans. Not publishing plans is no protection
at all, so might as well provide the plans so that
us homebuilders can have the satisfaction of
puzzling our way through them.

Looking forward to OSH.

JG

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: 750 plans availability Reply with quote

Larry,

I can only say that the staff at Zenith on May 15 told me, in answer to the
direct question, that the 750 will be available for plans building.

Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN

"Hope for the best,
but prepare for the worst."

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