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 Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: Fwd: Flight suits, leathers and conflict resolution |
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Corrections :
Are you a dues paying member? (Didn't have my glasses on)
| Quote: | From: cjpilot710
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: 11/10/2007 4:02:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: Re: Flight suits, leathers and conflict resolution
Mark,
Are you dies paying member?
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 11/10/2007 2:55:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, yakplt(at)yahoo.com writes:
| Quote: | Yes Drew, you provided me with a lot of material that I found of
interest and value. Some of which your own members did not quite
believe was accurate, so it was a wake-up call for everyone. I took
your advice (actually against my better judgment) and wrote a formal
letter to RPA as per your recommendation. I'm still waiting for even an
acknowledgement of its receipt let alone an answer to the
question/request. No big deal.. Patience is a virtue.
The YAK list is a valuable tool and I agree, it is sometimes human
nature to enjoy debate in all of its forms. As long as it does not get
too personal, I consider such debate to be in the best interests of all
involved. As you know, this is the YAK LIST and discussing an
organization that flies and supports Russian aircraft seems to me to be
WELL within the bounds of "normalcy", especially when you include the
constant remarks made on this list by RPA members discussing RPA recent
events that they have attended. Remember the near mid-air discussion?
Another good example.
The "Flight Suit" issue over the years has not only been limited to
requests for the RPA to change their rules, but has also morphed into
interesting, and sometimes even heated debates on the actual worth of
certain types of safety equipment that are used in and around aircraft.
Over the history of this issue, a lot of people have been bored, a lot
have become angry, but all of us... Every one of us, has learned
something that they did not know originally in the process. In my heart,
I sincerely believe that to be a true statement.
I can understand that you might prefer all discussion and debate of
certain RPA rules/regs/policies be conducted in private and through
official RPA communication channels, but to be honest while that might
be in the best interests of the RPA, I do not consider it to be in the
best interests of General Aviation in total, and those that fly
formation (or want to) specifically. Further, if you will look closely,
my postings have all been REPLIES, not originations.
Drew, you have the right to form your own opinions about any rule or
policy that you want to, regardless of whether it applies to airplanes,
motorcycles or lawnmowers. More power to you. Like the old saying goes:
"I may not agree with that you say, but I will support to the death your
right to say it".
What strikes me as interesting is that now you seem to no longer be
questioning my point of view, but rather whether it is "appropriate" to
express my views here in the first place rather/versus more "official
channels".
Of course I could be wrong.
Mark Bitterlich
----- Original Message ----
From: Drew <lacloudchaser(at)yahoo.com>
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 5:18:45 PM
Subject: Flight suits, leathers and conflict resolution
Mark,
Just to clarify, I believe I provided you the policy vie email that was retained from the YPA in it's modified form that is posted online at the website - the RPA vice president is David McGirt.
Again, my advice is to communicate this issue through admin(at)flyredstar.org (admin(at)flyredstar.org), as I've seen you have done, and so should others with opinions that they feel need to be heard on this issue!! The yak list, although a valuable tool, tends to express the human tendancy to enjoy conflict.
I just got back from Kieth Codes california superbike school, we all had to wear his type of leathers, even after signing multiple hold harmless letters that he had no responsibility for our personal well being if we highsided in a turn, but the clothing had no wiggle room, no biker leathers, no breathable fabrics except dead cow zippered or one piece, armored, including racing boots and what not...he wasn't paying my medical bills for face slapping the pavement, and in the desert, its hot...
...And you can imagine, I didn't question it - I was just thankful that so many talented folks put together such an awsome program, and I had an opportunity to learn from the best around, btw, I recommend it highly to any rider of sport, touring or cruiser...many lessons apply track to street.
I'm sure this will get discussed by those at admin - again, if anyone else feels strongly about it, they should also write admin(at)flyredstar.org (admin(at)flyredstar.org)
Now about those helmets, smoke systems, valve clearances, monoxide levels....
Drew
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