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		LessDragProd(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				Hi All,
   
  If anyone flying a RV-10 with a Hartzell propeller is interested in  trying the 3 blade MT propeller, I have one available.  
   
  MT Propeller does not own this propeller.  I own the RV-10  MT propeller.  I have both a 13" diameter spinner, and a 14" diameter  spinner for this propeller.
   
  The propeller is available at the Oxnard Airport (OXR) in Oxnard,  California.  NW of Los Angeles, CA.
   
   Also, if someone with a Hartzell 2 blade is interested in doing some  cruise performance comparison flight testing, I would be willing to work  with you to make it happen.  The initial testing would  be with your Hartzell propeller on your aircraft in its  present configuration.
   
  The 3 Blade MT Propeller will be a direct bolt on installation for a  cowl with the standard 1 1/2" cowl spacing.
   
  Jim Ayers
  Less Drag Products, Inc.
  (805) 795-5377 (8 am to 8 pm PDT)
 
 
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		pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				I sure hope someone takes you up on the offer!!!  Here's a chance to do some meaningful comparisons to put to rest all the 'I think"s and "It should"s to bed!!!
  Linn
  
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  LessDragProd(at)aol.com (LessDragProd(at)aol.com) wrote:
  [quote]            Hi All,
     
    If anyone flying a RV-10 with a Hartzell propeller is interested in trying the 3 blade MT propeller, I have one available.  
     
    MT Propeller does not own this propeller.  I own the RV-10 MT propeller.  I have both a 13" diameter spinner, and a 14" diameter spinner for this propeller.
     
    The propeller is available at the Oxnard Airport (OXR) in Oxnard, California.  NW of Los Angeles, CA.
     
       Also, if someone with a Hartzell 2 blade is interested in doing some cruise performance comparison flight testing, I would be willing to work with you to make it happen.  The initial testing would be with your Hartzell propeller on your aircraft in its present configuration.
     
    The 3 Blade MT Propeller will be a direct bolt on installation for a cowl with the standard 1 1/2" cowl spacing.
     
    Jim Ayers
    Less Drag Products, Inc.
    (805) 795-5377 (8 am to 8 pm PDT)
    
    
    
    
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		robin1(at)mrmoisture.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				Jim,  
                 I to sure hope someone takes you up on your offer soon. I am 12 months out from being able to offer my -10 for testing but I am “just up the street” from you at SBP. There is a builder getting close in SMX but I am not sure he is using the Hartzell BA prop. There is also a builder in SBP that is 4-5 months out. I wonder if he would be interested? Yoo hoo; Jearl?  
                 It’s nice to have this wave of -10’s about to hit the run up area.   
    
 Robin Marks  
        
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LessDragProd(at)aol.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:59 PM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing  
   
   
      
 Hi All,  
     
    
     
 If anyone flying a RV-10 with a Hartzell propeller is interested in trying the 3 blade MT propeller, I have one available.    
     
    
     
 MT Propeller does not own this propeller.  I own the RV-10 MT propeller.  I have both a 13" diameter spinner, and a 14" diameter spinner for this propeller.  
     
    
     
 The propeller is available at the Oxnard Airport (OXR) in Oxnard, California.  NW of Los Angeles, CA.  
     
    
       
 Also, if someone with a Hartzell 2 blade is interested in doing some cruise performance comparison flight testing, I would be willing to work with you to make it happen.  The initial testing would be with your Hartzell propeller on your aircraft in its present configuration.  
     
    
     
 The 3 Blade MT Propeller will be a direct bolt on installation for a cowl with the standard 1 1/2" cowl spacing.  
     
    
     
 Jim Ayers  
     
 Less Drag Products, Inc.  
     
 (805) 795-5377 (8 am to 8 pm PDT)  
   
   
 
  
          
   
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		LessDragProd(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:51 am    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				I made two different offers.
   
  The first offer is to simply to be able to try the MT 3 blade  propeller.
   
  The second separate offer is to get some flight test data.
  Very few pilots have any interest in doing this at all.  Probably  something about flying at a specific DENSITY altitude (which is usually a  strange station pressure altitude; i.e. NOT at x thousand feet plus 500).   Besides being very exacting, tedious and boring flying.
   
  Regards,
  Jim Ayers
   
  In a message dated 05/07/2007 5:31:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net writes:
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  I sure    hope someone takes you up on the offer!!!  Here's a chance to do some    meaningful comparisons to put to rest all the 'I think"s and "It should"s to    bed!!!
 Linn
 
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 LessDragProd(at)aol.com (LessDragProd(at)aol.com) wrote:
     	  | Quote: | 	 		            Hi All,
       
      If anyone flying a RV-10 with a Hartzell propeller is interested      in trying the 3 blade MT propeller, I have one available.  
       
      MT Propeller does not own this propeller.  I own the RV-10      MT propeller.  I have both a 13" diameter spinner, and a 14"      diameter spinner for this propeller.
       
      The propeller is available at the Oxnard Airport (OXR) in Oxnard,      California.  NW of Los Angeles, CA.
       
           Also, if someone with a Hartzell 2 blade is interested in doing      some cruise performance comparison flight testing, I would be willing      to work with you to make it happen.  The initial testing would      be with your Hartzell propeller on your aircraft in its      present configuration.
       
      The 3 Blade MT Propeller will be a direct bolt on installation for      a cowl with the standard 1 1/2" cowl spacing.
       
      Jim Ayers
      Less Drag Products, Inc.
      (805) 795-5377 (8 am to 8 pm  PDT)
 
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		Rick S.
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				One interesting thing about buying an MT is clearing customs. I bought mine from Jim at Less Drag, great guy and delivered right on time as promised. It is a pretty thing of mechanical beauty. He started this thread about trying an MT prop.
 
 Mine came fully assembled from Germany to the Fedex international terrminal here in Las Vegas. Jim told me there would be a fee to bail the prop out of customs and he was pretty close 150 to 200 dollars. I assumed it was for import duty fee...HA!!!! When I went to customs I was greeted by the biggest A**hole I ever ran into in government service who told me he wasn't gpoing to deal with me directly I had to hire a broker...WTF is a broker? So he gives me a little "referal" sheet to pick one from (read kickback here). I find the closest one to the airport give tham a call and head over...sign a contract and limited power of attorney and give them my credit card. Two hours later my card is charged $230 for this company to take the same paperwork I gave them over to the same jerk in customs for him to stamp and inspect the item if he likes, which he didn't and release my prop from Fedex. FWIW for personal use items there is no duty to pay. The broker made $230 for an hours work because the three guys in the customs office are too lazy to go over to Fedex...1/2 mile away and inspect the property which they didn't even do!!!
 
 Your mighty tax dollars at work...or not at work...what's next user fees!!!
 
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		jesse(at)saintaviation.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				I would love to offer our plane, but we are in Florida and I am sure you want someone closer to you.  
    
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 Jesse Saint  
 Saint Aviation, Inc.  
 jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  
 www.saintaviation.com  
 Cell: 352-427-0285  
 Fax: 815-377-3694  
         
   
 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LessDragProd(at)aol.com
  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:59 AM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing  
   
      
 Hi All,  
     
    
     
 If anyone flying a RV-10 with a Hartzell propeller is interested in trying the 3 blade MT propeller, I have one available.    
     
    
     
 MT Propeller does not own this propeller.  I own the RV-10 MT propeller.  I have both a 13" diameter spinner, and a 14" diameter spinner for this propeller.  
     
    
     
 The propeller is available at the Oxnard Airport (OXR) in Oxnard, California.  NW of Los Angeles, CA.  
     
    
       
 Also, if someone with a Hartzell 2 blade is interested in doing some cruise performance comparison flight testing, I would be willing to work with you to make it happen.  The initial testing would be with your Hartzell propeller on your aircraft in its present configuration.  
     
    
     
 The 3 Blade MT Propeller will be a direct bolt on installation for a cowl with the standard 1 1/2" cowl spacing.  
     
    
     
 Jim Ayers  
     
 Less Drag Products, Inc.  
     
 (805) 795-5377 (8 am to 8 pm PDT)  
   
   
 
  
          
   
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		larryebaker(at)earthlink. Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				Jim,  
 My name is Larry Baker and my first posting on this website. My RV10 has 85 hrs on it and it’s based in Watsonville, CA. Your proposal sounds fun. How much time do you think this will take?   
        
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  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:21 AM
  To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing  
   
   
        
 So, you don't get to California occasionally?     
     
    
     
 Jim Ayers  
     
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 In a message dated 05/07/2007 8:00:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jesse(at)saintaviation.com writes:  
     
     
    
   
 
  
          
   
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				 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:23 am    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				This is the type of complaint that should go to your Congressmen and 
 Senators.  I have never had to go through a "broker"
 
 Max
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				 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: MT 3 blade propeller available for flight testing | 
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				Give 'em a badge (read inch) and they take a mile!  Aren't we all building
 these planes because we really enjoy the TSA?
 
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 www.saintaviation.com
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