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GrummanDude
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Location: Auburn, CA
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 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: 1977 Tiger for sale |
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I am doing an annual on a very rough Tiger. It really needs a good
home. It has 1600+ hours total time since new. Original engine.
Original everything. The plane itself is pretty straight. I'd buy it
for a project plane. Paint: 0/10. Interior: 0/10. Avionics: well
they worked well enough to get the plane here. Windows/Windshield:
0/10. Wheel pants and plastic: 0/10.
I am removing the left wing to reseal. It will get new mags, new
hoses, an overhauled muffler, an overhauled McCauley prop, new spinner
bulkheads, new carb inlet duct, repacked wheel bearings, possible new
brakes, and a complete annual inspection.
The owner has lost his medical. He says he has a 'friend' who, he
says, can paint his plane in his hangar. Based on what I've seen so
far, PLEASE BUY THIS PLANE AND PROTECT IT FROM IT'S OWNER! He thinks
that after the annual the plane will be worth $55,000. After painting,
who knows what he'll ask. Buy it now for $40,000. That's his current
asking price.
What do I think it's worth? Hard to say. Like I said, the plane
itself is straight. It's just been neglected.
Gary
I would post this on GG but I've been I've been booted off again.
Something about aol blocking GG emails. I got an email back that asks
me to resubscribe because of something aol does. That's nonsense.
When this happened on TeamGrumman-List, Matt Dralle fixed it for
everyone on his own time. Now, that's what I call service. Thanks
Matt.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: 1977 Tiger for sale |
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If I weren't already drowning in time and debt to restore my own Cheetah after
years of neglect by previous owners. The more work I do the more problems I
find, mainly corrosion.
Jason
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flyhoss(at)YAHOO.COM
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: 1977 Tiger for sale |
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Jason,
I've been lurking, and learning, on this list for over a year, but your message prompted me to ask for more information. I've looked at a few Tigers (to purchase) and have found corrosion in the pre-1978 airframes. What year is your Cheetah? Where have you found corrosion and where has the airplane been based? In general, I'm looking for any information that can help me make the right purchase and corrosion is a real concern. Thank you, in advance, for any insight that you can provide.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: 1977 Tiger for sale |
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Chris,
My Cheetah is a 76 model. I know it spent some time in Florida, and it
probably spent some time outside. Let me list the spots one by one:
1) This whole effort started with electrical system problems. I can't say
corrosion was the culprit, but many of the grounds were corroded. The ground
on the flashing beacon power supply looked absolutely awful.
2) Flap motor bracket. Not only was it cracked in the usual spots, but it was
also rusting.
3) Ends of the aileron torque tube in the wing tip. I had to use penetrant to
get the aileron counterweights off. Corrosion pitting in the surface. Steel +
aluminum + water = electrolysis.
4) All of the pieces of the trim mechanism under the tail cone.
5) The flap torque tubes. I had to use penetrant to dissolve some of the rust
before I could fit it through the support bushings.
6) Inside the spar near the wing tip. This had already been addressed by the
previous owner.
7) Most of the external hardware on the plane that wasn't stainless.
 Horizontal stab. After taking the elevator off to replace hardware, I
found two large bird's nests in the tail, one on either side. A previous owner
taped the holes in the closeout ribs, but not before the nests were built. The
birds built one bay inboard, so the only way to get it out was to pull the
elevator. But you'd never know unless you removed the taped - or pulled the
elevator. Some corrosion under the bird's nests. After further inspection,
one of the front ribs in the horizontal stab has really bad corrosion. My IA
has agreed to let it go 2-3 years until I'm ready to paint. It's near the tip,
so the skin buckling loads are fairly light. When I go to paint, I will
probably debond the skin, replace that rib, and then use Service Kit 125A to
put it back together. Since the inside of the skin also has some surface
corrosion and dents on the leading edge, I will probably use fresh aluminum for
the skin.
9) Corrosion in the heater manifold on the firewall inside the cabin.
10) Corrosion on the fuel lines in the wing sump area.
There are probably little things I forgot about, but this covers a lot of it.
Hopefully in about 3 hours, I will have the wings pulled. With the corrosion I
found in the tail, Bob Steward and one of the guys at Fletchair convinced me to
pull the wings and check for corrosion on the spar. I will probably want to
check the gear attach points as well.
If you want to see what the corrosion is like on that one rib, let me know and
I will send a picture.
Jason
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