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Deems Davis
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 Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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I'm trying to get things finished off so that I can get the plane
painted. (I want to have it painted BEFORE I fly). I finished off the
wings some time ago and they are in storage at the hanger.
Question, Can I paint the wings (and fuse) prior to completing Sec 44
(wing attach)? The current plan is to retrieve the wings, paint
everything, send the wings back to the hanger, and complete Sec 44 at
the hanger as part of final assembly. I've got limited space to do the
wing attach here (at) home. But I thought I'd check with you guys who've
been down the road to see if there was any reason to go through the
attach steps prior to paint. (I know there is the likelihood of some
'rash' occurring during the wing attach.)
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
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LarryRosen
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 415
Location: Medford, NJ
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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You will not be able to finish paint the wing root fairings.
Also, looking at the plans there is some match drilling and nut plate
attachment for the root fairing that may not work with the finished
paint in that area.
Larry Rosen
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Deems Davis wrote:
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I'm trying to get things finished off so that I can get the plane
painted. (I want to have it painted BEFORE I fly). I finished off the
wings some time ago and they are in storage at the hanger.
Question, Can I paint the wings (and fuse) prior to completing Sec 44
(wing attach)? The current plan is to retrieve the wings, paint
everything, send the wings back to the hanger, and complete Sec 44 at
the hanger as part of final assembly. I've got limited space to do
the wing attach here (at) home. But I thought I'd check with you guys
who've been down the road to see if there was any reason to go through
the attach steps prior to paint. (I know there is the likelihood of
some 'rash' occurring during the wing attach.)
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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I don't see any reason this can't be done. The angles that hold the wing
attach fairing could be riveted before or after painting since you don't see
them. You will have to go back and paint the fairings themselves, of
course. Also, the flaps will need to be filed down to match the fuse, so
you might end up scratching the fuse side where the flap hits it, and you
may need to touch up the end of the flap where you file (unless you are
painting white, in which case you won't even see if the end isn't painted).
Certainly would be better to do the attach first, but I don't see any really
important reason that you couldn't paint first.
Are the wingtips done or no? This may make a difference as well, but
wouldn't kill the deal, depending on how you are going to attach them.
I definitely think you should paint before flying. You will be very glad
that you did!
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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I just finished this process and yes you have to match drill the wing root fairing and attach nut plates to the strip attached to the wing as well as a few on the edge of the wing, but the fairing will cover these up like house molding. But it would be necessary to wait on painting the wing root fairing itself because you have to take it off and on many times, or at least I did, to get it to fit correctly and you have to remove material to get it to fit. You would also, if you've already painted the plane, have to mask of the side of the plane because if you don't you will probably scratch putting on and taking off the fairing.
It's obviously easier to do this if the plane isn't painted but I believe you could make it work after it's painted.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
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Deems Davis
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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Thanks for the advice, and the motivation. I can't believe how many
apparently small items still need to be completed even after you've
finished the plans! Looks like you're zeroing in on the final drive. I
LOVE the looks of your prop! It's been a hassle on the prop for me, my
prop was originally supposed to be delivered in Nov. The hub just got
sent to Calif. Fri. so I'm guessing it will be another 2 weeks before I
get the assembled prop. Aero composites seems to have excellent
engineering, but their planning and scheduling sucks!
Deems
Wayne Edgerton wrote:
| Quote: | I just finished this process and yes you have to match drill the wing
root fairing and attach nut plates to the strip attached to the wing
as well as a few on the edge of the wing, but the fairing will cover
these up like house molding. But it would be necessary to wait on
painting the wing root fairing itself because you have to take it off
and on many times, or at least I did, to get it to fit correctly and
you have to remove material to get it to fit. You would also, if
you've already painted the plane, have to mask of the side of the
plane because if you don't you will probably scratch putting on and
taking off the fairing.
It's obviously easier to do this if the plane isn't painted but I
believe you could make it work after it's painted.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
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wvu(at)ameritel.net
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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Deems,
You should be able to work on the wing roots at home. I pushed the fuse
outside, temporarily attached the wings using two 3/8 bolts on each wing.
You can even attach just one wing at a time and work on it. The plane
doesn't tip over but put some saw horses underneath just in case. When
you're done for the day take the wings off and put them back in your garage.
The wings are easy to install/uninstall. It took me and my wife about
15-20minutes to attach each wing.
Anh
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DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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Why paint before flight?
Dave Leikam
40496
inventory QB wings and fuse
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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I recommend painting before flight for several reasons. One is so you can continue to fly without the downtime for painting. Also, if you aren't going to have it painted at an airport, it will need to be disassembled again. IMHO it is much easier to paint in pieces than assembled. If you fly before painting, you can/will get water, oil, and crud in the pinholes, skin seams and rivet heads that should not be painted over. I believe the feeling of accomplishment will be greater when flying a finished (or at least close to finished) plane over an assembled yet unpainted one.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: Wing attach sequence |
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Jesse,
I couldn't agree with you more. Fortunately I have to disassemble the plane
to get it out of the shop. Doors are too small.
I keep wondering about this question. I alodined my parts and much of the
outside already has alodine on it. What happens with my pollyester fillers
at joints, fared in areas where fiberglass meets metal and I have to sand it
smooth. I loose the alodine in those areas. Are people re etching and
alodining, which inevitably get alodine onto the filler. Is this okay with
the next step...Paint.
JOhn
[quote]From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Wing attach sequence
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:11:56 -0300
I recommend painting before flight for several reasons. One is so you can
continue to fly without the downtime for painting. Also, if you aren't
going to have it painted at an airport, it will need to be disassembled
again. IMHO it is much easier to paint in pieces than assembled. If you
fly before painting, you can/will get water, oil, and crud in the pinholes,
skin seams and rivet heads that should not be painted over. I believe the
feeling of accomplishment will be greater when flying a finished (or at
least close to finished) plane over an assembled yet unpainted one.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
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