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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:02 pm    Post subject: 912ULS classic radiator cap pressure? Reply with quote

Mine has 0.9bar stamped on it, and appears to start blowing when cht is around 220.

I either simply need a new one, or one of a higher pressure? I see discussion about 1.2bar being standard?

No idea why mine has a 0.9bar.

Cheers and thx,
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 912ULS classic radiator cap pressure? Reply with quote

Many, many years ago it was advised to change from 0.9 to 1.2 bar. A friend gave me a spare, which he bought from an online motorcycle shop, which I think was intended for a water cooled Triumph? motorbike. Anyway it's smaller than those found on car radiators.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 912ULS classic radiator cap pressure? Reply with quote

Higher pressure raises boiling point of the coolant; earlier 912 had the lower pressure cap... Have both the cap and coolant system pressure tested; 1.2bar is not a big increase and the standard system in good condition can tolerate 1.2bar.

If the cap holds 0.9bar and you have overheating issues its highly likely you have another issue.

The small toyota/jap style recovery reservoir caps do not fit; are slightly larger diameter than the rotax ones.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:38 pm    Post subject: 912ULS classic radiator cap pressure? Reply with quote

1.2 bar for glycol, and 0.9 for Evans waterless coolant is Rotax standard op.

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Mine has 0.9bar stamped on it, and appears to start blowing when cht is around 220.

I either simply need a new one, or one of a higher pressure? I see discussion about 1.2bar being standard?

No idea why mine has a 0.9bar.

Cheers and thx,
PeteZ
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:18 am    Post subject: 912ULS classic radiator cap pressure? Reply with quote

Service bulletins sb-912-043-r2 and sb-914-029-r3 issued November 2006 uplifted the radiator pressure cap to 1.2bar.

It also has the ROTAX part no for the replacement.

I owned a Triumph Sprint motorcycle and found the radiator cap was the same size and pressure setting although whether you fit that is down to you.

Alan

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Many, many years ago it was advised to change from 0.9 to 1.2 bar. A friend gave me a spare, which he bought from an online motorcycle shop, which I think was intended for a water cooled Triumph? motorbike. Anyway it's smaller than those found on car radiators.




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:40 am    Post subject: 912ULS classic radiator cap pressure? Reply with quote

Ditto most water-cooled BMW motorcycles, at a fraction of the Rotax price.

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Service bulletins sb-912-043-r2 and sb-914-029-r3 issued November 2006 uplifted the radiator pressure cap to 1.2bar.

It also has the ROTAX part no for the replacement.

I owned a Triumph Sprint motorcycle and found the radiator cap was the same size and pressure setting although whether you fit that is down to you.

Alan

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:36 am    Post subject: 912ULS classic radiator cap pressure? Reply with quote

Hi Alan,
Thx for those SBs!  My engine is circa 1990's, which explains the cap.  I would have expected the canadian rotax support/dealer to have included that in my SB's needed to be done when I had enquired when I purchased Troy's classic a few years ago now - I guess they missed it.  I am running normal glycol (not evans).
I am going to give the Triumph T2108005 a try.  I am also going to purchase some sort of pressure tester to ensure my system will have no leaks at 1.2.
Many thanks again!
PeteZ

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Service bulletins sb-912-043-r2 and sb-914-029-r3 issued November 2006 uplifted the radiator pressure cap to 1.2bar.

It also has the ROTAX part no for the replacement.

I owned a Triumph Sprint motorcycle and found the radiator cap was the same size and pressure setting although whether you fit that is down to you.

Alan

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:43 am    Post subject: 912ULS classic radiator cap pressure? Reply with quote

The Triumph cap is a fraction of the Rotax cost and works fine…..I bought mine for £12 off a Triumph supplier in the UK.
 
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Hi Alan,

 

Thx for those SBs!  My engine is circa 1990's, which explains the cap.  I would have expected the canadian rotax support/dealer to have included that in my SB's needed to be done when I had enquired when I purchased Troy's classic a few years ago now - I guess they missed it.  I am running normal glycol (not evans).

 

I am going to give the Triumph T2108005 a try.  I am also going to purchase some sort of pressure tester to ensure my system will have no leaks at 1.2.

 

Many thanks again!

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Service bulletins sb-912-043-r2 and sb-914-029-r3 issued November 2006 uplifted the radiator pressure cap to 1.2bar.

It also has the ROTAX part no for the replacement.

I owned a Triumph Sprint motorcycle and found the radiator cap was the same size and pressure setting although whether you fit that is down to you.

Alan

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