Matronics Email Lists Forum Index Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
 
 Get Email Distribution Too!Get Email Distribution Too!    FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Full control deflection

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Europa-List
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
Guest





PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:00 am    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.
Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 
i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.
I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps
Will

William Daniell
+1 786 878 0246


- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
freddythek10(at)gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:40 am    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway. 04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees.
i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee. I have never even come close before.

I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

Will
William Daniell
+1 786 878 0246


- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
freddythek10(at)gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:21 am    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?

Fred

PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!

Quote:
On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:

So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway. 04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees.
i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee. I have never even come close before.

I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

Will


William Daniell
+1 786 878 0246


- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:05 am    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.

Quote:
On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:



Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?

Fred

PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!

> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.
>
> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway. 04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees.
> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee. I have never even come close before.
>
> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps
>
> Will
>
>
> William Daniell
> +1 786 878 0246







- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
freddythek10(at)gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:28 pm    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

Yes, Erich has a beautiful bird with amazing fully retractable outriggers
but (Erich...correct me if I’m wrong) I believe his flaps are still coupled to his mono wheel LG

Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On Sep 15, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:



Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?
>
> Fred
>
> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!
>
>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.
>>
>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway. 04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees.
>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee. I have never even come close before.
>>
>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>> William Daniell
>> +1 786 878 0246
>
>
>
>
>






- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
Paul M 383



Joined: 19 Mar 2012
Posts: 74
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Full control deflection Reply with quote

freddythek10(at)gmail.com wrote:
Yes, Erich has a beautiful bird with amazing fully retractable outriggers
but (Erich...correct me if I’m wrong) I believe his flaps are still coupled to his mono wheel LG

Sent from my iPhone


From the looks of this photo, maybe not connected...

HTH

Paul M

https://ar.flightaware.com/photos/view/171364-b3fa544d6381be3e87c8916afe4c0a4e23ac4595


- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List



cbd3a78bf52fa8ed1ac77d09bc59dc3b1d6f5c38.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  87.76 KB
 Viewed:  1154 Time(s)

cbd3a78bf52fa8ed1ac77d09bc59dc3b1d6f5c38.jpg


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
freddythek10(at)gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:49 pm    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

Quote:
On Sep 15, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Paul M 383 <europaul383(at)hotmail.com (europaul383(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
From the looks of this photo, maybe not connected…


yes…certainly a possibility...
Quote:



- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
alan.twigg775(at)gmail.co
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:49 pm    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

As I have a motor glider variant, I am most interested in electric outrigger details.
Alan Twigg
Kit 463, complete but struggling with control deflections.

Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On 15 Sep 2019, at 19:04, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:



Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?
>
> Fred
>
> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!
>
>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.
>>
>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway. 04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees.
>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee. I have never even come close before.
>>
>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>> William Daniell
>> +1 786 878 0246
>
>
>
>
>






- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
Guest





PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:27 am    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

Hi Alan,

Erich’s custom outriggers fold up sideways into custom classic-foam wing carved out rebates. Not applicable to the carbon prepreg glider wings.

Cheers,
Pete

Quote:
On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:47 AM, Alan Twigg <alan.twigg775(at)gmail.com> wrote:



As I have a motor glider variant, I am most interested in electric outrigger details.
Alan Twigg
Kit 463, complete but struggling with control deflections.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Sep 2019, at 19:04, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.
>
>> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!
>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.
>>>
>>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway. 04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees.
>>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee. I have never even come close before.
>>>
>>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>
>>> William Daniell
>>> +1 786 878 0246
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>






- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
alan.twigg775(at)gmail.co
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:41 am    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

Thanks Pete, I did see some miniature actuators several years ago that one Europaphile was intending to use but heard no more.
Alan Twigg

Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On 16 Sep 2019, at 11:26, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:



Hi Alan,

Erich’s custom outriggers fold up sideways into custom classic-foam wing carved out rebates. Not applicable to the carbon prepreg glider wings.

Cheers,
Pete

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:47 AM, Alan Twigg <alan.twigg775(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> As I have a motor glider variant, I am most interested in electric outrigger details.
> Alan Twigg
> Kit 463, complete but struggling with control deflections.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 15 Sep 2019, at 19:04, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.
>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!
>>>
>>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway. 04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees.
>>>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee. I have never even come close before.
>>>>
>>>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps
>>>>
>>>> Will
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William Daniell
>>>> +1 786 878 0246
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>






- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
erichdtrombley(at)juno.co
Guest





PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:49 am    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

Hi Fred,

I do have electric flaps and they are decoupled from the main gear. Same installation as the tri-gear flaps. Its the retractable outriggers that are coupled to the main gear.

Cheers,

Erich
N28ET
Classic Mono 914
____________________________________________________________
$80K In Debt To 2.5 Million Trading Stocks
ragingbull.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5d8289c74a3b69c71681st04vuc


- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
freddythek10(at)gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Full control deflection Reply with quote

Hey Erich...I figured as much...and a very sweet, and unique installation it is. Hope you’re enjoying some sunshine and good flying weather ...up here in the PNW we be under serious cloud cover, though finally this afternoon we have some blue sky...

Fred

Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley(at)juno.com> wrote:



Hi Fred,

I do have electric flaps and they are decoupled from the main gear. Same installation as the tri-gear flaps. Its the retractable outriggers that are coupled to the main gear.

Cheers,

Erich
N28ET
Classic Mono 914
____________________________________________________________
$80K In Debt To 2.5 Million Trading Stocks
ragingbull.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5d8289c74a3b69c71681st04vuc






- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Europa-List All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group