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				|  Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:47 am    Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 05/07/18 |   |  
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				| You could keep the down box and raise the engine to whatever height might be
needed.
 I think flipping the box would put the prop higher than needed - forget how
 much.
 You can get a wider chord prop to Absorb more power in a smaller dia. The
 prop mfg could say what would work with the 3.47 box.
 Just some thought based on fuzzy recollections.
 Dennis
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 Time: 03:23:13 PM PST US
 From: Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net>
 Subject: High Thrust Line Question
 Kolbers, I ran into a significant problem on my Firestar, and it may cause
 me to not be able to finish the project. I hope this is not as much of a
 problem as I fear.
 
 When I bought my HKS engine I did not know to ask whether it had one type
 gearbox or another. It has the 3.47 to 1 box, which will spin a large
 propeller very slowly.
 
 After reading some ot the Kolb List stories about high thrust lines and
 putting the Kolb over on its nose, I realized I wanted to keep the thrust
 line as low as possible for best performance and handling. However, with the
 gearbox rotated to the "down" position, it limited the propeller diameter to
 64 inches with a one inch tailboom clearance. With the 3.47 gearbox I have,
 a three blade propeller with 62-64 inch diameter is not enough... the engine
 will overspeed before I get the full amount of thrust.
 
 Someone suggested using a four or five blade propeller, but that would
 prevent the wings from folding back.
 
 I contacted the engine distributor to ask if I could switch the gears around
 to make my gearbox a 2.58 to 1 ratio,a nd you cannot do that without
 changing the gearbox itself.
 
 So I asked how much it would cost to buy a new gearbox, andit is way too
 high for me to consider doing right now. Maybe when I win the lottery.
 
 Someone else suggested that I turn the gearbox around facing "up", which
 would allow a much larger propeller. My first reaction was "Oh goodness no,
 that will raise the thrust line too high, and it will cause the airplane to
 nose over on takeoff, I'll run out of elevator control, etc. etc...."
 
 But then I realized that was an assumption rather than a known fact. Before
 I gave up on the project, perhaps I can move the gearbox upwards and not
 have problems...
 but how far?
 
 So I would like to ask the experienced Kolbers: JUST EXACTLY HOW HIGH can
 the thrust line be on a Kolb Firestar 2 before it creates
 safety/handling/nose-over problems? Can the center of the propeller be 34
 inches above the tailboom...36
 inches...38 inches...40 inches????
 Bill Berle
 www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
 www.grantstar.net      - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
 entities
 
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