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flywithme
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:04 pm Post subject: what oil?? |
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I am new to the Rotax engine. I have a 447 points ignition engine on my Firefly. what oil do you fellow Kolbers use in your Engines? why?
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stuart(at)harnerfarm.net
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:16 pm Post subject: what oil?? |
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Mine is a 447 with electronic single ignition.
Amzoil Super Saber Professional 100:1 mix ratio. Recommended by the shop
foreman at LEAF in Wisconsin.
Phil Lockwood (Lockwood Aviation) recommends Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled
oil. Go figure.
They both recommend using Stabil fuel stabilizer to help keep the gas fresh
longer. I use this too.
Only 20 hours on mine so far. All OK. Carbon buildup is minimal. Just
replaced the plugs coming out of storage for the winter. Looked good but why
put them in for a lousy 5 hours before the recommended replacement?
I would look into upgrading the ignition system if at all possible.
Your engine must have some years on it. Hope it was stored properly.
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: what oil?? |
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Started using Phillips Injex for 2-stroke engines back in 1983, used it ever since. Got 700+ hours out of a Rotax 277, still running good when I sold it, no problems, on it's 2nd piston and original crank. Used it in several 503's, 532's, 582's and still using it. Burns cleaner than Pennzoil. Tried Pennzoil one summer, covered the tail with oily soot. Plugs looked the same, cylinder walls looked the same, just made the airplane nasty. Phillips doesn't do that.
Have had a few times when I had to clean the carbon off some rings, but never had a seizure or a bearing failure. Underside of the cylinder head is always clean, exhaust ports don't clog up. Run my engines around 1100 degrees EGT or as close to it as possible.
Worth what ya paid for it.
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Bill Long
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:40 pm Post subject: what oil?? |
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Date: 05/23/2016 11:17 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Started using Phillips Injex for 2-stroke engines back in 1983, used it ever since. Got 700+ hours out of a Rotax 277, still running good when I sold it, no problems, on it's 2nd piston and original crank. Used it in several 503's, 532's, 582's and still using it. Burns cleaner than Pennzoil. Tried Pennzoil one summer, covered the tail with oily soot. Plugs looked the same, cylinder walls looked the same, just made the airplane nasty. Phillips doesn't do that.
Have had a few times when I had to clean the carbon off some rings, but never had a seizure or a bearing failure. Underside of the cylinder head is always clean, exhaust ports don't clog up. Run my engines around 1100 degrees EGT or as close to it as possible.
Worth what ya paid for it.
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Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Amsoil Interceptor best fuel milage and no dirty tail.
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-------- Original message --------
From: Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
Date: 05/23/2016 11:17 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: what oil??
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
Started using Phillips Injex for 2-stroke engines back in 1983, used it ever since. Got 700+ hours out of a Rotax 277, still running good when I sold it, no problems, on it's 2nd piston and original crank. Used it in several 503's, 532's, 582's and still using it. Burns cleaner than Pennzoil. Tried Pennzoil one summer, covered the tail with oily soot. Plugs looked the same, cylinder walls looked the same, just made the airplane nasty. Phillips doesn't do that.
Have had a few times when I had to clean the carbon off some rings, but never had a seizure or a bearing failure. Underside of the cylinder head is always clean, exhaust ports don't clog up. Run my engines around 1100 degrees EGT or as close to it as possible.
Worth what ya paid for it.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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flywithme
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:54 am Post subject: Re: what oil?? |
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upgrading the ignition is something on my "to do" list. will the slectronic ignition fit on all of the 447 models? i have found a used complete set up that came off of an 8 bolt block. i am not sure what block i have?
| stuart(at)harnerfarm.net wrote: | Mine is a 447 with electronic single ignition.
Amzoil Super Saber Professional 100:1 mix ratio. Recommended by the shop
foreman at LEAF in Wisconsin.
Phil Lockwood (Lockwood Aviation) recommends Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled
oil. Go figure.
They both recommend using Stabil fuel stabilizer to help keep the gas fresh
longer. I use this too.
Only 20 hours on mine so far. All OK. Carbon buildup is minimal. Just
replaced the plugs coming out of storage for the winter. Looked good but why
put them in for a lousy 5 hours before the recommended replacement?
I would look into upgrading the ignition system if at all possible.
Your engine must have some years on it. Hope it was stored properly.
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