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rwcrapse(at)att.com
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 Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:04 am Post subject: Paul and other thoughts |
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I read the thread with Paul and I have to laugh. It reminds me of
another situation with Dave Atkins and redrives for Rotary engines. He
uses a spur gear setup because "planetary gears won't hold up". Tracy
Crook took the engineers way and did a failure analysis on the same
redrive design. Funny , they came to different conclusions. Lack of a
thrust bearing and incorrect lubrication paths led to the Ross redrive
killing itself, not the gear design is what Tracy found. This thing with
Paul and Bob smacks of the same vein.
I had the opportunity to read Bob's book, attend his seminar, and attend
Greg Richter's seminar at OshKosh. Now here is another holy war that
goes on. Bob and Greg will disagree with me on this, but I found it
fascinating that they are aruging the same point on wiring aircraft and
ground paths from two separate view points. They call it different
things, but the gist is there. Greg prefers the solder and heat shrink
tube, Bob prefers the Fast-On connectors. Both want a gas tight,
electrically sound connection. Both talk about shielding and how to do
it correctly. Bob likes fuses, Greg likes polyfuses. Differing thoughts,
but both have their valid points. As someone who deals with the mighty
invisible heart of radio (vacuum tubes) and who deals with SMT, TTL,
CMOS devices, I can say that in SOME applications, one version of
technology is superior to another, but not universally. For example,
vacuum tube diodes are far quieter than their counterpart solid state
brothers. However, does it justify using the vacuum tube diode in modern
radio gear? If we are talking about a Hi-Fi amp or stereo, I personally
like the sound of the older tube types that the solid state does not
match. But then again, when dealing with aircraft radios and modern HT's
versus battery life versus vibration, the solid state works just fine,
thank-you very much. In sand storm conditions? Give me the vaccum tube
finals, they could care less about the static charges, makes them glow
brighter. And before you argue that they are dead, the next gen is
coming out a nano tubes with cold cathodes for satellites. Now isn't
that a surprise?
I try to learn from everybody, but I always have to understand where
they are coming from first and why. Much better education that way.
Rick
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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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| Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: Paul and other thoughts |
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Great post Rick and spot on. I tend to liken it to old skool vs new
skool. Neither method is wrong but they would rather spend the time
arguing why one is more correct than the other. Waaaay too much
rhetoric. Yawn.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
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brian-av(at)lloyd.com
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| Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: Paul and other thoughts |
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On Aug 25, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Crapse, Richard W (Rick), WWCS wrote:
| Quote: | I had the opportunity to read Bob's book, attend his seminar, and
attend
Greg Richter's seminar at OshKosh. Now here is another holy war that
goes on. Bob and Greg will disagree with me on this, but I found it
fascinating that they are aruging the same point on wiring aircraft
and
ground paths from two separate view points. They call it different
things, but the gist is there.
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When we were creating the technology that became the Internet, we ran
into the same problem. Brilliant people would argue their points
vociferously and nearly come to blows. It would usually take an
equally-bright third party to determine that they were saying the
same thing but using different words. The difference was usually in
the inconsequential details. We even came up with a name for the
phenomenon: agreeing violently.
So I just shrugged and decided that Bob and Greg, and Bob and Paul
were just agreeing violently ... for the most part.
But when things like this happen I usually look for whoever has the
simplest solution.
I am going to go meet Bob tomorrow at Auburn. I have been
corresponding with him for ten years and have never met him face-to-
face. It should be interesting.
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian HYPHEN av AT lloyd DOT com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
— Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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Terry Watson
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| Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: Paul and other thoughts |
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No, I disagree. There was much more to it than that. Paul was consistently
attacking the honesty and integrity of Bob's work, misquoting what he said
and attacking that. Bob kept trying to bring it back to the point. This has
been going on, off and on, for at least a year. Each time Paul goes off in a
huff after getting in at least a half a dozen different "last word"
messages. Paul kept trying to make it personal; Bob kept trying to get it
back to the point.
Finally, Bob asked Paul to leave the list that Matt created for Bob to use
to answer our questions about wiring little airplanes. In my mind, he waited
about 18 months too long. Paul has wasted way too many people's time. I
think I heard somewhere that he has his own list, but apparently no one was
listening to him their so he had to come pollute this one again.
Terry
<rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>
<snip> Neither method is wrong but they would rather spend the time
arguing why one is more correct than the other.<snip>
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
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