SteveD
 
  
  Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 50
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Panel vibration mounts | 
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				Jos,
 Thanks for the question regarding my panel mounts. About two weeks  
 ago Jos saw me online and IMed me with a question about my panel mounts
 http://www.europaowners.org/modules/gallery/albums/Panel/ 
 DSCN3938.sized.jpg  4403K13 and 4403K27 http://www.mcmaster.com/
 The simple question was "Steve, I don't see any loading data in  
 tension. If you have a sudden acceleration or acceleration stress  
 over time, are you going to be wearing your panel?"
 
 The learning curve was more like a roller coaster. An email to  
 McMaster carr said. "Item number 4403k27 is not rated for tension at  
 all. The mount is designed for compression applications only."
 My heart sunk, Then back to the catalog, how could I be so wrong?  
 Wait... I wasn't, the catalog clearly gives shear loading data.
 So I contacted the manufacturer. Good news, the manufacturer  
 recommended two types of mounts. The first was a wire rope type some  
 thing like this Mcmaster part 62225K3. Then they recommended the same  
 type I was installing. I asked about the fact that there was no  
 tension data, their reply was it's "not rated for tension, because if  
 we did some one would hang the panel from the ceiling". Ok, give me a  
 number I said. The mounts can handle shear loading rating in  
 acceleration. No problem. Meaning that for a short duration,  
 acceleration of one G the panel won't fall off.
 So 35 to 40 lb panel 3 mounts at 15 lb max shear load each will hold  
 my panel at one G in all directions. I have ten load bearing mounts  
 so I'm good for 3.75 g before I hit the safety stops.
 But I was warned that too many mounts could actually be worse than  
 none. Depending on the vibration rate and arm of motion, to many  
 mounts could setup a feed back loop and the panel shake it self to  
 pieces.
 SO.... It's not that I don't have enough mounts it's I may have to  
 many. The plan is this, remove mounts until I have 1.5g load rating.  
 Install stops so I have only max deflection, vertical .150",  
 Compression .09", and 0 in tension. The stops should be easily made  
 with a bolt some spacer tubing and a couple of washers.
 I'm also going to take a couple of the mounts to work and have the  
 lab test them until destruction... just to be sure.
 
 Photos will be posted when I get it built.
 
 Keep the questions coming,
 Steved
 
 When I ask the AP at our EAA meeting, he said the mounts looked just  
 like the ones in his Cessna 150.......
 
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