Matronics Email Lists Forum Index Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
 
 Get Email Distribution Too!Get Email Distribution Too!    FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Charging System

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> AeroElectric-List
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
europa(at)triton.net
Guest





PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: Charging System Reply with quote

I’m having difficulty trouble shooting a charging system problem. The install is a Rotax 914 in an Europa XS. Besides the Rotax alternator, I have a B&C L60 alternator driven off the crankshaft and a B&C LR3C regulator. The electrical system is basically AeroElectric Z-13. I have recently completed the 50 hour inspection of the airframe and engine. There were no problems found with the charging system and the battery (Panasonic LC-X1220P 20 aH) is only 18 mos old with 50 hours of use. It passed a capacity test with the same result as when new.
The aircraft is equipped with 3 ammeters - one on the battery positive and one on each alternator output. What I observed during flight and subsequent testing today is that the battery ammeter shows -3 amps (a 3 amp discharge) all the time, regardless of load - ie turning on pitot heat doesn’t change the value - it’s still a 3 amp discharge. Data from flights prior to the maintenance showed 0 amps at this spot as expected. The problem is present with either alternator on line and both of them operate correctly, proven by loading heavily (pitot heat) and noting the amp output.
Any suggestions on where to look? Might there be a problem with this battery where it can’t accept a charge properly? The bus voltage runs 14.1 - 14.2 volts which is what B&C recommends.
Thanks
Jim Butcher
Europa XS N241BW


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
Back to top
brian



Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 643
Location: Sacramento, California, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Charging System Reply with quote

On Jul 5, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Jim Butcher wrote:

Quote:
The aircraft is equipped with 3 ammeters - one on the battery
positive and one on each alternator output. What I observed during
flight and subsequent testing today is that the battery ammeter
shows -3 amps (a 3 amp discharge) all the time, regardless of load
- ie turning on pitot heat doesn’t change the value - it’s still a
3 amp discharge. Data from flights prior to the maintenance showed
0 amps at this spot as expected. The problem is present with either
alternator on line and both of them operate correctly, proven by
loading heavily (pitot heat) and noting the amp output.

Any suggestions on where to look? Might there be a problem with
this battery where it can’t accept a charge properly? The bus
voltage runs 14.1 - 14.2 volts which is what B&C recommends.
If the bus voltage is 14.1 then the battery is charging. There is no

question about that. I would suspect the metering circuit.

Do you really have three ammeters or three shunts switched to one
ammeter? It sounds to me like you might have inadvertently switched
two of the leads to your shunt switch. (Presuming one ammeter).

Another possibility is that if you have hall-effect sensors the zero
setting on the one for the battery has become misadjusted.
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak AT lloyd DOT com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)

I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
— Antoine de Saint-Exupéry


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List

_________________
Brian Lloyd
brian-yak at lloyd dot com
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)

I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> AeroElectric-List All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group