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stabelvej9(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:07 am Post subject: Folding bike?

Hi



I am so old that I still remember the first leaflet Iwan gave me on Cranefield back - yes, it was last century

To build and fly my Europa was the easy part  ....  

To find a folding bike suitable for the "Europa-Projekt" is more difficult.

I have tried several, but they are either to heavy, to "big" or runs poorly - even bought a BMW one, and paid a fortune - the worst one of them all!

Have you guys found a nice bicycle that fits in the Europa ... ??



Regards Gert





Gert Dalgaard

Denmark

OY-GDS  /  Mono  / 914  /  650 hrs

ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:26 am Post subject: Folding bike?

Gert,

I have a Yikebike. Fits well, easy to use, electric, and expensive. But worth a look. Made in NZ!

Selling a lot overseas. Choice of three with differing materials, weight and price. I have the Fusion.

See;

http://www.yikebike.com



Cheers,



Tim



Tim Ward

12 Waiwetu Street

Fendalton,

Christchurch,  8052

New Zealand.



ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz



Ph 64 3 3515166

Mob 0210640221

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		   On 1/09/2014, at 8:07 pm, Gert Dalgaard SÃ¸rensen <stabelvej9(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi

 

 I am so old that I still remember the first leaflet Iwan gave me on Cranefield back - yes, it was last century

 To build and fly my Europa was the easy part  ....  

 To find a folding bike suitable for the "Europa-Projekt" is more difficult.

 I have tried several, but they are either to heavy, to "big" or runs poorly - even bought a BMW one, and paid a fortune - the worst one of them all!

 Have you guys found a nice bicycle that fits in the Europa ... ??

 

 Regards Gert

 

 

 

 

 Gert Dalgaard

 Denmark

 OY-GDS  /  Mono  / 914  /  650 hrs

JonSmith

Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 110

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Folding bike?

The "Rolls Royce" of folding bikes I think is the Brompton.

www.brompton.com

(Other makes undoubtably may or may not exist which may or may not be better...!)



They are expensive though - I would love to own one but can't really afford one with everything else on my wish list....!

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G-TERN
Classic Mono

alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:44 am Post subject: Folding bike?

I invested in a Brompton some years ago to help me lose weight!



They certainly fit into the Europa and mine weighs in at 15Kg with the optional luggage carrier on the back and lights.



Alan

On 1 Sep 2014, at 09:29, JonSmith <jonsmitheuropa(at)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:



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 The "Rolls Royce" of folding bikes I think is the Brompton.

 www.brompton.com

 (Other makes undoubtably may or may not exist which may or may not be better...!)

 

 They are expensive though - I would love to own one but can't really afford one with everything else on my wish list....!

 

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:46 am Post subject: Folding bike?

Gert

Ivan has one but I forgot what it is. He thinks it's great.

Graham



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Hi



I am so old that I still remember the first leaflet Iwan gave me on Cranefield back - yes, it was last century

To build and fly my Europa was the easy part  ....  

To find a folding bike suitable for the "Europa-Projekt" is more difficult.

I have tried several, but they are either to heavy, to "big" or runs poorly - even bought a BMW one, and paid a fortune - the worst one of them all!

Have you guys found a nice bicycle that fits in the Europa ... ??



Regards Gert





Gert Dalgaard

Denmark

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Ivor Phillips

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 253
Location: London UK

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:00 am Post subject: Folding bike?

Hi Gert

I use a brompton 6 speed with aluminium frame, but you can also get one with titanium at a price,

A few off the Europa guys use them, their wheel size is a good compromise between stability and comfort, I also have a Gel saddle to improve distant travel,

Regards

Ivor

G-IVER



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		   On 1 Sep 2014, at 09:07, Gert Dalgaard SÃ¸rensen <stabelvej9(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi

 

 I am so old that I still remember the first leaflet Iwan gave me on Cranefield back - yes, it was last century

 To build and fly my Europa was the easy part  ....  

 To find a folding bike suitable for the "Europa-Projekt" is more difficult.

 I have tried several, but they are either to heavy, to "big" or runs poorly - even bought a BMW one, and paid a fortune - the worst one of them all!

 Have you guys found a nice bicycle that fits in the Europa ... ??

 

 Regards Gert

 

 

 

 

 Gert Dalgaard

 Denmark

 OY-GDS  /  Mono  / 914  /  650 hrs

Jim Kelly

Joined: 25 Jan 2014
Posts: 69
Location: England

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:17 am Post subject: Folding bike?

Hi Alan, Is your Europa a Classic ie without the extended luggage bay ?

Rgds

Jim Kelly

G-BWEG



On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Alan Burrill <alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk (alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk)> wrote:

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 I invested in a Brompton some years ago to help me lose weight!

 

 They certainly fit into the Europa and mine weighs in at 15Kg with the optional luggage carrier on the back and lights.

 

 Alan

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alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:37 am Post subject: Folding bike?

G-OBJT is a classic built as a Tri-Gear without the extended luggage bay.

Alan

On 1 Sep 2014, at 10:16, James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com (europajimkelly(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]Hi Alan, Is your Europa a Classic ie without the extended luggage bay ?

Rgds

Jim Kelly

G-BWEG

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Alan Burrill <alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk (alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk)> wrote:

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 I invested in a Brompton some years ago to help me lose weight!

 They certainly fit into the Europa and mine weighs in at 15Kg with the optional luggage carrier on the back and lights.

 Alan

 On 1 Sep 2014, at 09:29, JonSmith <jonsmitheuropa(at)tiscali.co.uk (jonsmitheuropa(at)tiscali.co.uk)> wrote:

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 > The "Rolls Royce" of folding bikes I think is the Brompton.

 > www.brompton.com

 > (Other makes undoubtably may or may not exist which may or may not be better...!)

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 > They are expensive though - I would love to own one but can't really afford one with everything else on my wish list....!

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goff

Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 70

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Folding bike?

Hello,



My Brompton fits nicely in the back of our Europa XS  Tri-gear.

It weighs 26 lbs, so no problems there either.



In my view both the Europa and the Brompton are outstanding examples of UK design and engineering.



Goff

Fred Klein

Joined: 26 Mar 2012
Posts: 503

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:05 am Post subject: Folding bike?

On Sep 1, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Timward <ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz (ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz)> wrote:

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		  Yikebike. Fits well, easy to use, electric, and expensive. But worth a look. Made in NZ! 	




Great example of what’s possible when design and engineering talent isn’t sucked up by the military / security complex...



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pestar

Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 61
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Folding bike?

I have a YikeBike, Tim and I are going to set-up a series of YikeBike races and as he has a Europa and I have a DynAero it will be the French against the British.



Not withstanding that in my view the YikeBike is an outstanding example of Kiwi design and engineering. Don't know about the Europa.



Said with the greatest tongue in cheek



Cheers Peter



PS My YikeBike is really useful, took it from New Zealand to Oshkosh and rode it around inside, the folk there did not know what it was as it was folded up when I walked through the gate.  Only got stopped by officialdom once during the week but got stopped so many times by the locals had to leave it at home for a day so I could see the show.  It fits in a case that turns into a trailer when you pull the bike out.

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Auckland, New Zealand
DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me Smile

787driver

Joined: 02 Sep 2014
Posts: 3
Location: Southern Florida

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Folding bike?

I've tried a number of folding bikes and I would have to second the recommendation for the Brompton. I hate that they are so expensive but I do believe them to be the best.

graeme bird

Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 434

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Folding bike?

I get a brompton in the back of my mono and it doesn't have the extended baggage bay mod.

Its very useful for about 6 miles, Shoreham to Brighton, Staverton to Brockworth, Vallance byways to Crawley etc.

After a few rides and years you forget the price. They also hold their price for resale.

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Graeme Bird
kit4 (Wagstaff) TBD
Kit3 G-CLXU (Gregory) mono 914 xs Woodcomp
Kit2 G-PATS - (kesterton) Mono Classic 912 warpdrive
Kit 1 G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS 912S, Woodcomp G(@)gdbmk.co.uk

graeme bird

Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 434

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Folding bike?

Does anyone out there get two brompton's in a mono without the extended baggage bay. I am considering buying a second and it would lend weight to the argument.

Thanks

graeme bird

Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 434

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:31 am Post subject: Re: Folding bike?

I am reliably informed (with a photograph) that it is possible in a mono - and without extended baggage bay; one must removed the Brompton bike seat stems first and store separately.

Second bike duly ordered;

Had my first one more than 10 years and found it invaluable.

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