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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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 Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: Stock Lycoming |
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Tim,
Below is the content that is ideal for the Archives (maybe with
an updated Subject that contains LOP). Maybe consider removing the Do
Not Archive?
Robin
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:58 am Post subject: Stock Lycoming |
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Sure, it's an automatic, but here you go, I'll remove it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Robin Marks wrote:
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Tim,
Below is the content that is ideal for the Archives (maybe with
an updated Subject that contains LOP). Maybe consider removing the Do
Nxt Arckive?
Robin
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:29 am Post subject: Stock Lycoming |
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We've flown nonstop from OSH to the FL, although not all the way to
X35. We have flown nonstop from Newton, KS to X35 with a little
diverting for weather and neutral winds at best (we picked the one day
that there weren't tailwinds from West to East). In cruise, at
17,500, we were seeing fuel burns close to 7gph with true airspeeds in
the 150kias range. It's been a long time, so I don't remember the
details. I got flamed a little when I reported it then. That flight
was 7:03 long and we had VFR reserves. That flight, IIRC, was about
914nm nonstop, which is probably our record with standard tanks.
Also, believe it or not, sitting in the -10 seats for that long is
really not that bad. They are very comfortable.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Feb 16, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
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I don't know what I've used for a longest range so far. I think
somewhere in the 5 or 5.5 hour leg range, so maybe 750-800nm.
The plane is capable of more if you fly it higher. You'll find
great economies above 12,000', and really good ones between
8,000-12,000'. If a person had the want, it's not hard to do
OSH to Atlanta or more. I know Jesse has done something like
OSH to Florida, right Jesse? I myself have really never landed
with less than 12 gallons or so of fuel, so I don't push the
range as much as I could. If I had extended range tanks I'd
feel better about using up all 60 gallons, but I like knowing
that there is plenty of fuel, more than the legal reserves,
and I consider that at ROP settings....so 12 gallons is just
under an hour....or if you pull back the power, maybe a little
more than an hour. The RV-10 can cover a lot of ground in an
hour. I've often taken off and seen my range be 500-700nm,
but once I have reached cruising altitude (if it were higher),
and started leaning, the range pushes to over 1000nm with
reserves (at that fuel flow). Heck, think about it...at
8.5gph, you're looking at a 6 hour range with 1 hour reserve
at LOP settings, so you could do a 900nm leg if you wish.
I don't know if flow matched cylinders give all that much
benefit. My original ECI Titans had special valve cuts
and stuff done at Aerosport. The new ones I got after the
SB/AD came with a "venturi cut" valve or something like that.
Seems to me the cylinder run the same, and those are stock
ECI Titans. I've heard that the benefits are fairly
minimal on our Lycs. Now, flow matching the injectors
is another story. Bart did mine originally.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dave Leikam wrote:
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> Considering all the usual variables, what kind of average range
> would you say you get with the 10? Longest ever? Would you say
> having the cylinders flow matched etc. has any affect on efficiency
> or LOP operation?
> Dave L.
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: Stock Lycoming |
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Just think of what kinds of distance you could cover with a good
tailwind. 
I agree TOTALLY. I've not driven a car in my life that has
seats that compare in comfort to the RV-10. I find it amazing
that I can put in 9 or 10 hour flying days and not be sore a
bit, but 2 hours in the cars and I'm not comfortable at all.
From a full-leather suburban on down, I've just never been
as comfortable as the RV-10 seats make me.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Jesse Saint wrote:
[quote]
We've flown nonstop from OSH to the FL, although not all the way to
X35. We have flown nonstop from Newton, KS to X35 with a little
diverting for weather and neutral winds at best (we picked the one day
that there weren't tailwinds from West to East). In cruise, at 17,500,
we were seeing fuel burns close to 7gph with true airspeeds in the
150kias range. It's been a long time, so I don't remember the details.
I got flamed a little when I reported it then. That flight was 7:03
long and we had VFR reserves. That flight, IIRC, was about 914nm
nonstop, which is probably our record with standard tanks. Also,
believe it or not, sitting in the -10 seats for that long is really not
that bad. They are very comfortable.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Feb 16, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
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> I don't know what I've used for a longest range so far. I think
> somewhere in the 5 or 5.5 hour leg range, so maybe 750-800nm.
> The plane is capable of more if you fly it higher. You'll find
> great economies above 12,000', and really good ones between
> 8,000-12,000'. If a person had the want, it's not hard to do
> OSH to Atlanta or more. I know Jesse has done something like
> OSH to Florida, right Jesse? I myself have really never landed
> with less than 12 gallons or so of fuel, so I don't push the
> range as much as I could. If I had extended range tanks I'd
> feel better about using up all 60 gallons, but I like knowing
> that there is plenty of fuel, more than the legal reserves,
> and I consider that at ROP settings....so 12 gallons is just
> under an hour....or if you pull back the power, maybe a little
> more than an hour. The RV-10 can cover a lot of ground in an
> hour. I've often taken off and seen my range be 500-700nm,
> but once I have reached cruising altitude (if it were higher),
> and started leaning, the range pushes to over 1000nm with
> reserves (at that fuel flow). Heck, think about it...at
> 8.5gph, you're looking at a 6 hour range with 1 hour reserve
> at LOP settings, so you could do a 900nm leg if you wish.
>
> I don't know if flow matched cylinders give all that much
> benefit. My original ECI Titans had special valve cuts
> and stuff done at Aerosport. The new ones I got after the
> SB/AD came with a "venturi cut" valve or something like that.
> Seems to me the cylinder run the same, and those are stock
> ECI Titans. I've heard that the benefits are fairly
> minimal on our Lycs. Now, flow matching the injectors
> is another story. Bart did mine originally.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
> Dave Leikam wrote:
>>
>> Considering all the usual variables, what kind of average range would
>> you say you get with the 10? Longest ever? Would you say having the
>> cylinders flow matched etc. has any affect on efficiency or LOP
>> operation?
>> Dave L.
>> ---
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