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Ken Potter
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 85
Location: Lanark, Ontario
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 Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Kitfox-List:Losing Aileron Controll in Flight |
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Ellery;
Kudos for getting the bird down. I used to fly 2 channel radio control and it was always easy to pick up a wing with rudder. I've practiced in other "real" aircraft (cessna and diamond) controlling without aileron and its not easy!!
You've said earlier that you think the crack was not new. I have a bit of experience with material failure through my job as an accident investigator with the Transportation Safety Board of Canada. If the crack was pre-existing you should see a darker area representing the pre-existing crack and a dull grey area were it finally failed.
Anyway, thanks for the alert. Although I've not yet flown my Fox, I will now check the geometry of all of the linkages and check for binding, deflection etc.
Cheers
Ken Potter
Kitfox II, No. 483
Rotx 583 C Box
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ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: Kitfox-List:Losing Aileron Controll in Flight |
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I did explain in an earlier post where the link broke at the bottom of the control stick on pilots side and in the picture you should be able to see what part of the link failed
it is not my plane I just installed new gear and an engine on it for a guy and did the test flying I am not familluar with kitfox Part names and did the best I could but I see you know what part it is just from reading your description
Ellery
In a message dated 8/1/2008 1:34:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynnmatt(at)jps.net writes:
| Quote: | --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
When you post a pic, be sure to tell us exactly which part of the rod
end, and at what point in the linkage....is this the short male-to-
female rod end combo right at the end of the aileron control torque
tube?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/557+ hrs
On Jul 27, 2008, at 12:12 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | It was the Threaded part of the rod end that broke in the threads
Ellery
In a message dated 7/27/2008 10:55:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
nahsikhs(at)elltel.net writes:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net>
> I Just had the aileron Linkeage that connects to the bottom of
the Pilot side stick brake on me yesterday
Ellery, was it the rod end or the clevis bolt that failed? I just
checked and see that the clevis bold will have to be removed to be
inspected.
Good Job on landing with no aileron control.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: Kitfox-List:Losing Aileron Controll in Flight |
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Yes, I figured it out by reading another post from you...I was
answering stuff before I read all the posts on the subject. I got
back from Oshkosh to 287 messages, and tried to read them all in one
sitting...whew!
I'm really surprised by that breakage, because that part is mostly in
tension/compression, so it's curious that it failed.
Thanks for posting the problem, as it helps us all to be aware of
potential problems....and congrats on the safe landing.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/557+ hrs
On Aug 2, 2008, at 5:23 AM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | I did explain in an earlier post where the link broke at the bottom
of the control stick on pilots side and in the picture you should
be able to see what part of the link failed
it is not my plane I just installed new gear and an engine on it
for a guy and did the test flying I am not familluar with kitfox
Part names and did the best I could but I see you know what part
it is just from reading your description
Ellery
In a message dated 8/1/2008 1:34:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt(at)jps.net writes:
When you post a pic, be sure to tell us exactly which part of the rod
end, and at what point in the linkage....is this the short male-to-
female rod end combo right at the end of the aileron control torque
tube?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/557+ hrs
On Jul 27, 2008, at 12:12 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
> It was the Threaded part of the rod end that broke in the threads
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> Ellery
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> In a message dated 7/27/2008 10:55:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> nahsikhs(at)elltel.net writes:
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> > I Just had the aileron Linkeage that connects to the bottom of
> the Pilot side stick brake on me yesterday
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> Ellery, was it the rod end or the clevis bolt that failed? I just
> checked and see that the clevis bold will have to be removed to be
> inspected.
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> Good Job on landing with no aileron control.
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> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195196#195196
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> Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse
> Fantasy Football today.
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