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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: I Passed! Reply with quote

At 08:51 AM 10/11/2007, Richard Girard wrote:
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Dana, For ultralights, it's FAR 103.17

103.17 is about "operations in certain airspace" (prior authorization from
ATC required); it says nothing about how you identify yourself on the radio.

-Dana
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: I Passed! Reply with quote

Dana, (prior authorization from ATC required) usually means you call ahead on the phone from the ground and get permission, they will tell you how to identify yourself. At least that's what I was taught. Whether ATC will take a radio call for prior authorization is up to them and their work load at the time.
Rick Pike has more experience here, I've only done a ground call once, when the transponder wasn't working when I requested flight following outside the Seatac mode C veil. I landed in Anacortes to make the request, got my instructions and took off again.

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Dana, For ultralights, it's FAR 103.17

103.17 is about "operations in certain airspace" (prior authorization from
ATC required); it says nothing about how you identify yourself on the radio.

-Dana
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: I Passed! Reply with quote

At 04:57 PM 10/11/2007, Richard Girard wrote:
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Dana, (prior authorization from ATC required) usually means you call ahead
on the phone from the ground and get permission, they will tell you how to
identify yourself. At least that's what I was taught. Whether ATC will
take a radio call for prior authorization is up to them and their work
load at the time...

That makes sense... though most of us are probably more concerned with
identifying ourselves at a unicom field.

I've phoned the tower and gotten permission to fly PPG about a half mile
inside their Class D airspace, with no radio... we agreed that we'd stay
under 200' while inside the Class D. On another occasion a friend (who
_did_ have a radio) phoned first and also got permission. When he tried to
radio the tower once airborne, he was unintelligible... the tower realized
who he was, told him to proceed as agreed, no reply required.

We now have permission from the landowner to fly other ultralights from
that location, so I'll probably try to work out a regular procedure with
the tower.

-Dana

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: I Passed! Reply with quote

Ask for a Letter of Agreement.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: I Passed! Reply with quote

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Ask for a Letter of Agreement.

I think my buddy mentioned something like that after he talked to the
tower. I'll look into it.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:50 am    Post subject: I Passed! Reply with quote

Two countries divided by a common language. Wasn't that how Churchill put it,>>

Hi Rick

Churchill put lots of things very succinctly. The one I like is the story of a rather combative lady Member of Parliament who during a parliamentary debate said to Churchill "You are drunk" To which Churchill replied " and you madam are ugly, but in the morning I shall be sober"

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