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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Champs and Chumps Reply with quote

I'd be interested in anyone's experience with polarizing filters, too. I've done almost zero work with them, and would like to learn more.

I use a Nikon Coolpix 8800, and set it on spot metering and watch the digital picture change as I aim the "spot" at different areas. You can watch the readout darken and lighten as you point at differing areas at about the same range. When I get the exposure that I want showing, then 1/2 press the button to lock the focus and exposure, frame my desired pic, then full press for the shot.

I find that altho' I often have a nice shot out of the camera, it almost always pays to tweak them slightly, such as contrast, exp., sharpening.....especially sharpening. I only do it with pics I want to share, either by email or printing, and usually use a quick, simple program - Photo Recall Deluxe by G&S Imaging - that does an adequate job. Unfortunately, it's no longer available. Photoshop works best, but is more tedious to use.

My pictures come out of the camera at 2.5 - 6 megabytes each, (3264x2448 pixels) so I cut them back by shrinking them to 1000 pixels by 750. Then apply a compression factor to give a file size of around 50 - 150 kilobytes each, depending on need. Gives a nice big bright picture that is quick to download. With some programs, instead of compression factor, I *think* (don't use 'em) you hafta specify pixels per inch or some such.

If you use a D70, I'm sure you know most or all of this, but it may help others with prepping pics for posting.   Lar.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Champs and Chumps Reply with quote

Big LarI've taken several thou pix with Polarizers, great things, and wouldn't be without them. Got one foot out the door but will reply in  depth soon.
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Russ

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On Aug 30, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:
[quote]I'd be interested in anyone's experience with polarizing filters, too.  I've done almost zero work with them, and would like to learn more.
 
I use a Nikon Coolpix 8800, and set it on spot metering and watch the digital picture change as I aim the "spot" at different areas.  You can watch the readout darken and lighten as you point at differing areas at about the same range.  When I get the exposure that I want showing, then 1/2 press the button to lock the focus and exposure, frame my desired pic, then full press for the shot.
 
I find that altho' I often have a nice shot out of the camera, it almost always pays to tweak them slightly, such as contrast, exp., sharpening.....especially sharpening.  I only do it with pics I want to share, either by email or printing, and usually use a quick, simple program - Photo Recall Deluxe by G&S Imaging - that does an adequate job.  Unfortunately, it's no longer available.  Photoshop works best, but is more tedious to use.
 
My pictures come out of the camera at 2.5 - 6 megabytes each, (3264x2448 pixels) so I cut them back by shrinking them to 1000 pixels by 750.  Then apply a compression factor to give a file size of around 50 - 150 kilobytes each, depending on need.  Gives a nice big bright picture that is quick to download.  With some programs, instead of compression factor, I *think* (don't use 'em) you hafta specify pixels per inch or some such.
 
If you use a D70, I'm sure you know most or all of this, but it may help others with prepping pics for posting.                            Lar.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Champs and Chumps Reply with quote

Chris, It's good to see you are ready to go. I quit flying a few years ago because I got tired of new restrictions. I have been flying the Firefly now for about a year and a half and I am really enjoying the freedom. If there is anything I can do to help just holler. The Firefly on Floats lets me combine my love of flying and boating.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Champs and Chumps Reply with quote

Chris, I look forward to the pictures

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Champs and Chumps Reply with quote

Leg gits cold that way. I'm into Levis and a jacket with door off...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Champs and Chumps Reply with quote

JSFYou're barking up the wrong  tree! -- film & digital are pretty similar in re shooting aerials -- constant overexposure9is a CAMERA problem, nothing to do with aerials. Check your histograms if you can, and correct things IN THE CAMERA (read that 100-page manual) before looking elsewhere. Over-sharpening and over-contrasting are common pitfalls -- you shouldn't have any problems but you do have to set things right in/on the camera --
nice pic, go get some more!
Russ Kinne
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On Aug 30, 2006, at 11:12 AM, john s. flannery wrote:
[quote] Up early in "Rectified Red,"  the  Mark III,  for 45 minutes checking out stuff, left door off. Shooting some pix. Responding here because somebody got into jpgs, and I am having exposure problems with the D70 Nikon digital I never experienced shooting aerials with film.
Almost constant overexposures washed out any time I shoot wide shots. Have to tweak each image. Exception was this to left of runway 31 climbing out at  about 800 feet AGL, and shooting an oblique from left side. Any suggestions? No, haven't used polarized or UV filter yet.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Champs and Chumps Reply with quote

Russ,

Pre-fire wipeout, and switch to mostly digital, always shot my aerials a third stop under using film, mostly Fiji Provia or another Fuji. Good saturation.

Did some reading and camera tweaking revisions last night, and thanks for the suggestions, and techie buddy took a look this morning and thinks I might be okay now. Have a disk to upgrade some of the Nikon software also. Took him a couple disks of aerials (Kolb-flights to date) and he thinks they will work and wants to grab four or so for another show in Bradley Gallery here on Broadway in TorC in Oct-Nov.

He and I decided that shooters are the luckiest people in the world. About only folks existing who can decide what to do, do it the way you want, carry it through the whole process on your own to completion, and get paid for it...well, sometimes. Doing it from the air for me above varied terrain is about as good as it gets.

This morning, the monsoons were still with us, so bagged flying, and from looks out window to north, more of same this evening . The 65,000 temporary immigrants from the "cities" to the shores of the low-but-filling two reservoirs for Labor Day on the Rio Grande are going to get their butts wet. Flood warnings again on the tele for a lot of this desert state.

Might add note regarding exposures, everything medium range or close-up on the ground it right on...Duh.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Champs and Chumps Reply with quote

Russ,

Pre-fire wipeout, and switch to mostly digital, always shot my 35mm aerials a third stop under using film, mostly Fiji Provia or another Fuji. Good saturation.

Did some reading and camera tweaking revisions last night, and thanks for the suggestions, and techie buddy took a look this morning and thinks I might be okay now. Have a disk to upgrade some of the Nikon software also. Took him a couple disks of aerials (Kolb-flights to date) and he thinks they will work and wants to grab four or so for another show in Bradley Gallery here on Broadway in TorC in Oct-Nov.

He and I decided that shooters are the luckiest people in the world. About only folks existing who can decide what to do, do it the way you want, carry it through the whole process on your own to completion, and get paid for it...well, sometimes. Doing it from the air for me above varied terrain is about as good as it gets.

This morning, the monsoons were still with us, so bagged flying, and from looks out window to north, more of same this evening . The 65,000 temporary immigrants from the "cities" to the shores of the low-but-filling two reservoirs for Labor Day on the Rio Grande are going to get their butts wet. Flood warnings again on the tele for a lot of this desert state.

Might add note regarding exposures, everything medium range or close-up on the ground it right on...Duh.

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