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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:17 am    Post subject: panel colour? Reply with quote

On the illuminated panel, what color was the illumination?
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/23/2013 09:14 AM, Robert Borger wrote:

[quote] RayJ,

I’d call the finish a semi-gloss. Not truly flat but not shiny. Labeling was black, in a simple san-serif, Something like this 14pt Arial Rounded MT Bold. The later aircraft went to grey over a translucent plastic that was back or edge lit and the text was either screened out or removed in some way so that the illumination showed through the text. That was a nice panel. Other folks have described a similar panel type that can be done today from the right vendor.


Bob

On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:28 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
Thanks for the info. I assume it was in a flat finish. Do you know what color and size text was used for labeling? I assume they did research to determine what what was best, no reason to reinvent the wheel.
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/23/2013 07:37 AM, Robert Borger wrote:

Quote:
RayJ,

The USAF used that 18% neutral grey, or maybe a bit lighter, in all the aircraft I was associated with while I was in. I believe the US Navy uses the same or a similar grey. Don’t know about the US Army.


Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)


On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:06 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
Greetings,

Does anyone know what color the military, any military, use in their cockpits?


Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/22/2013 12:16 PM, Bill Allen wrote:

Quote:
Thanks Jan - it's a color I was thinking of.

Bill



On 22 November 2013 17:47, jan <jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk (jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk)> wrote:
Quote:

Hi Bill,

In Europe for wet paint (or power for that matter) we use a lot of RAL colour codes … You can Google it … Here is one that I like ..

RAL 7031

Jan


From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: 22 November 2013 12:17
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: panel colour?


Hi All,


I've just finished a new panel (aluminium) for a LongEz and I have to decide what colour to paint it. I know it's not strictly an electrical decision, but in terms of it being the visual pinnacle of all the electrical work behind it, I want a colour that works ergonomically and aesthetically.


I'm leaning towards something other than black, but something too colourful. Perhaps a charcoal blue?



Any advice?



Bill Allen


Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:37 am    Post subject: panel colour? Reply with quote

RayJ,

White
Bob

On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:16 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
On the illuminated panel, what color was the illumination?
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/23/2013 09:14 AM, Robert Borger wrote:

Quote:
RayJ,

I’d call the finish a semi-gloss. Not truly flat but not shiny. Labeling was black, in a simple san-serif, Something like this 14pt Arial Rounded MT Bold. The later aircraft went to grey over a translucent plastic that was back or edge lit and the text was either screened out or removed in some way so that the illumination showed through the text. That was a nice panel. Other folks have described a similar panel type that can be done today from the right vendor.


Bob

On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:28 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
Thanks for the info. I assume it was in a flat finish. Do you know what color and size text was used for labeling? I assume they did research to determine what what was best, no reason to reinvent the wheel.
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/23/2013 07:37 AM, Robert Borger wrote:

Quote:
RayJ,

The USAF used that 18% neutral grey, or maybe a bit lighter, in all the aircraft I was associated with while I was in. I believe the US Navy uses the same or a similar grey. Don’t know about the US Army.


Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)


On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:06 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
Greetings,

Does anyone know what color the military, any military, use in their cockpits?


Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/22/2013 12:16 PM, Bill Allen wrote:

Quote:
Thanks Jan - it's a color I was thinking of.

Bill



On 22 November 2013 17:47, jan <jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk (jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk)> wrote:
Quote:

Hi Bill,

In Europe for wet paint (or power for that matter) we use a lot of RAL colour codes … You can Google it … Here is one that I like ..

RAL 7031

Jan


From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: 22 November 2013 12:17
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: panel colour?


Hi All,


I've just finished a new panel (aluminium) for a LongEz and I have to decide what colour to paint it. I know it's not strictly an electrical decision, but in terms of it being the visual pinnacle of all the electrical work behind it, I want a colour that works ergonomically and aesthetically.


I'm leaning towards something other than black, but something too colourful. Perhaps a charcoal blue?



Any advice?



Bill Allen


Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
4
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
5
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
6
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
7
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
8
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Kettle River, MN.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject: panel colour? Reply with quote

Thanks very much for the info. I don't think I'll try the illuminated style, but I'll definitely be using the grey color for the instrument panel.

Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/23/2013 10:36 AM, Robert Borger wrote:

[quote] RayJ,

White


Bob

On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:16 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
On the illuminated panel, what color was the illumination?
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/23/2013 09:14 AM, Robert Borger wrote:

Quote:
RayJ,

I’d call the finish a semi-gloss. Not truly flat but not shiny. Labeling was black, in a simple san-serif, Something like this 14pt Arial Rounded MT Bold. The later aircraft went to grey over a translucent plastic that was back or edge lit and the text was either screened out or removed in some way so that the illumination showed through the text. That was a nice panel. Other folks have described a similar panel type that can be done today from the right vendor.


Bob

On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:28 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
Thanks for the info. I assume it was in a flat finish. Do you know what color and size text was used for labeling? I assume they did research to determine what what was best, no reason to reinvent the wheel.
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/23/2013 07:37 AM, Robert Borger wrote:

Quote:
RayJ,

The USAF used that 18% neutral grey, or maybe a bit lighter, in all the aircraft I was associated with while I was in. I believe the US Navy uses the same or a similar grey. Don’t know about the US Army.


Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)


On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:06 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
Greetings,

Does anyone know what color the military, any military, use in their cockpits?


Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/22/2013 12:16 PM, Bill Allen wrote:

Quote:
Thanks Jan - it's a color I was thinking of.

Bill



On 22 November 2013 17:47, jan <jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk (jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk)> wrote:
Quote:

Hi Bill,

In Europe for wet paint (or power for that matter) we use a lot of RAL colour codes … You can Google it … Here is one that I like ..

RAL 7031

Jan


From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: 22 November 2013 12:17
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: AeroElectric-List: panel colour?


Hi All,


I've just finished a new panel (aluminium) for a LongEz and I have to decide what colour to paint it. I know it's not strictly an electrical decision, but in terms of it being the visual pinnacle of all the electrical work behind it, I want a colour that works ergonomically and aesthetically.


I'm leaning towards something other than black, but something too colourful. Perhaps a charcoal blue?



Any advice?



Bill Allen


Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
0
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
1
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
2
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
3
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
4
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
5
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
6
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
7
Quote:
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
8
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:58 am    Post subject: panel colour? Reply with quote

FWIW, I painted my RV10 panel a light brown/tan to match the rest of my interior. It was a high gloss polyurethane. No regrets with the paint, gloss or color after 350 hours. including plenty of IFR work.

My panel is mostly glass panel, lit screens and lit rockers. My eye comfort and performance seems to exclusively be a product of screen quality and and their brightness (especially at night).

I'll attempt to attach a pic of the panel (with plenty of glare from the flash). Assuming the pic comes thru as intended, I'd add that the only regret I have about the panel is placement of the center EFIS screen (they are GRT HXs). I should have put the left and center EFIS close together. The distance between the two screens makes it uncomfortable to use the center EFIS as a moving map. Instead I have to split my left hand unit to get a PFD and moving map on the same screen.

Bill "still needing to replace stuck on labels with permanent ones" Watson

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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/23/2013 07:37 AM, Robert Borger wrote:

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RayJ,

The USAF used that 18% neutral grey, or maybe a bit lighter, in all the aircraft I was associated with while I was in. I believe the US Navy uses the same or a similar grey. Don’t know about the US Army.


Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)


On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:06 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:
Greetings,

Does anyone know what color the military, any military, use in their cockpits?


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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/22/2013 12:16 PM, Bill Allen wrote:

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Thanks Jan - it's a color I was thinking of.

Bill



On 22 November 2013 17:47, jan <jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk (jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk)> wrote:
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Hi Bill,

In Europe for wet paint (or power for that matter) we use a lot of RAL colour codes … You can Google it … Here is one that I like ..

RAL 7031

Jan


From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: 22 November 2013 12:17
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: panel colour?


Hi All,


I've just finished a new panel (aluminium) for a LongEz and I have to decide what colour to paint it. I know it's not strictly an electrical decision, but in terms of it being the visual pinnacle of all the electrical work behind it, I want a colour that works ergonomically and aesthetically.


I'm leaning towards something other than black, but something too colourful. Perhaps a charcoal blue?



Any advice?



Bill Allen


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Kettle River, MN.

"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:43 am    Post subject: panel colour? Reply with quote

Hi Bill Watson,

Did Abby do the glare shield cover ? Does it keep up well or have you had any issues with it ??

Jan




From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: 23 November 2013 17:57
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: panel colour?


FWIW, I painted my RV10 panel a light brown/tan to match the rest of my interior. It was a high gloss polyurethane. No regrets with the paint, gloss or color after 350 hours. including plenty of IFR work.

My panel is mostly glass panel, lit screens and lit rockers. My eye comfort and performance seems to exclusively be a product of screen quality and and their brightness (especially at night).

I'll attempt to attach a pic of the panel (with plenty of glare from the flash). Assuming the pic comes thru as intended, I'd add that the only regret I have about the panel is placement of the center EFIS screen (they are GRT HXs). I should have put the left and center EFIS close together. The distance between the two screens makes it uncomfortable to use the center EFIS as a moving map. Instead I have to split my left hand unit to get a PFD and moving map on the same screen.

Bill "still needing to replace stuck on labels with permanent ones" Watson

On 11/23/2013 9:28 AM, rayj wrote:
Quote:

Thanks for the info. I assume it was in a flat finish. Do you know what color and size text was used for labeling? I assume they did research to determine what what was best, no reason to reinvent the wheel.

Quote:
Raymond JulianKettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends,and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine

On 11/23/2013 07:37 AM, Robert Borger wrote:
Quote:

RayJ,


The USAF used that 18% neutral grey, or maybe a bit lighter, in all the aircraft I was associated with while I was in. I believe the US Navy uses the same or a similar grey. Don’t know about the US Army.



Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)



On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:06 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:


Greetings,

Does anyone know what color the military, any military, use in their cockpits?



Quote:
Raymond JulianKettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends,and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine

On 11/22/2013 12:16 PM, Bill Allen wrote:
Quote:

Thanks Jan - it's a color I was thinking of.


Bill



On 22 November 2013 17:47, jan <jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk (jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk)> wrote:
Hi Bill,


In Europe for wet paint (or power for that matter) we use a lot of RAL colour codes … You can Google it … Here is one that I like ..


RAL 7031


Jan



From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: 22 November 2013 12:17
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: panel colour?



Hi All,



I've just finished a new panel (aluminium) for a LongEz and I have to decide what colour to paint it. I know it's not strictly an electrical decision, but in terms of it being the visual pinnacle of all the electrical work behind it, I want a colour that works ergonomically and aesthetically.



I'm leaning towards something other than black, but something too colourful. Perhaps a charcoal blue?




Any advice?




Bill Allen


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:42 pm    Post subject: panel colour? Reply with quote

Yes she did. I keeps up well with no visible signs of wear but I don't think much of the glare shield design in general. It's a padded or insulated fabric cover that stays comfortable to the touch. It doesn't create any distracting reflections on the windshield. It fits but it always seems a bit sloppy.

Personally, I pay no attention to it and it's faded into my mental background, which is a good thing. If I knew how to fabricate a well functioning but better looking glare shield, I'd probably not order that piece from Abby and do my own. But I don't have a clue. I couldn't even list the functional requirements for the piece.

Bill

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Hi Bill Watson,

Did Abby do the glare shield cover ? Does it keep up well or have you had any issues with it ??

Jan




From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: 23 November 2013 17:57
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: panel colour?


FWIW, I painted my RV10 panel a light brown/tan to match the rest of my interior. It was a high gloss polyurethane. No regrets with the paint, gloss or color after 350 hours. including plenty of IFR work.

My panel is mostly glass panel, lit screens and lit rockers. My eye comfort and performance seems to exclusively be a product of screen quality and and their brightness (especially at night).

I'll attempt to attach a pic of the panel (with plenty of glare from the flash). Assuming the pic comes thru as intended, I'd add that the only regret I have about the panel is placement of the center EFIS screen (they are GRT HXs). I should have put the left and center EFIS close together. The distance between the two screens makes it uncomfortable to use the center EFIS as a moving map. Instead I have to split my left hand unit to get a PFD and moving map on the same screen.

Bill "still needing to replace stuck on labels with permanent ones" Watson

On 11/23/2013 9:28 AM, rayj wrote:
Quote:

Thanks for the info. I assume it was in a flat finish. Do you know what color and size text was used for labeling? I assume they did research to determine what what was best, no reason to reinvent the wheel.

Quote:
Raymond JulianKettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends,and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine

On 11/23/2013 07:37 AM, Robert Borger wrote:
Quote:

RayJ,


The USAF used that 18% neutral grey, or maybe a bit lighter, in all the aircraft I was associated with while I was in. I believe the US Navy uses the same or a similar grey. Don’t know about the US Army.



Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)



On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:06 AM, rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)> wrote:


Greetings,

Does anyone know what color the military, any military, use in their cockpits?



Quote:
Raymond JulianKettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends,and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine

On 11/22/2013 12:16 PM, Bill Allen wrote:
Quote:

Thanks Jan - it's a color I was thinking of.


Bill



On 22 November 2013 17:47, jan <jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk (jan(at)claver.demon.co.uk)> wrote:
Hi Bill,


In Europe for wet paint (or power for that matter) we use a lot of RAL colour codes … You can Google it … Here is one that I like ..


RAL 7031


Jan



From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: 22 November 2013 12:17
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: AeroElectric-List: panel colour?



Hi All,



I've just finished a new panel (aluminium) for a LongEz and I have to decide what colour to paint it. I know it's not strictly an electrical decision, but in terms of it being the visual pinnacle of all the electrical work behind it, I want a colour that works ergonomically and aesthetically.



I'm leaning towards something other than black, but something too colourful. Perhaps a charcoal blue?




Any advice?




Bill Allen


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