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CraigEllison

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 24
Location: Silverton, OR USA

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: Transition training for XS Mono

All,



I am currently getting the finishing touches on N205CN which is XS Mono and 

soon will be ready for first flight.  While finding someone to do the honors 

has been fairly stright forward, (Bob Lindsay has been very helpful and 

willing)finding a Mono to do transition training in has been impossible.  So 

here is the question for the worldwide Europa family,  Is there anyone out 

there(UK,NZ, US) that can help with transition training?  Here in the US the 

only insurance for Europa requires 15hr duel and 10 hr solo before they'll 

cover and the FAA has closed off any transition training in the first 40hr 

of phase 1 testing.  So efectively there is no coverage for the first 40hr 

unless one can get 15hr instruction beforehand.  Insurance issues aside,  I 

don't feel it would be wise to fly the Europa mono without some form of 

training due to its unique flying characteristics.  I know some will say to 

give up on the mono and change it to a trike.  Well that is an option and 

one that I might be forced to make but I would prefer not to if at all 

possible.



Thanks for any and all help and or suggestions



Craig Ellison

A205/N205CN

Silverton, OR USA



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gcrowder2

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Golden, Colorado USA

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: Transition training for XS Mono

Hey Craig!  Well done on getting that XS done!  I had an older EAA type 

instructor/test

pilot test fly my Mono, and then check me out in it and do my tailwheel 

endorsement.

  He's a long time sailplane pilot and is not scared by the Mono at all.  

He's still available and

could do all three with you in your Mono I'm sure.  You could trailer your 

plane down to

Denver and get daily lessons.  I could also give you some right seat time in 

my Mono.

I even have space for your plane in my hangar although it would have to be 

left on the

trailer to fit.  Might take a couple of trips if we ran into a stretch of 

bad weather.  You

might even have to suffer thru a few days skiing when it was too windy to

fly.  Most mornings are calm even on the windy days but it was calm all day 

yesterday.

I flew last night for an hour and it was dead calm.  Today, the wind started 

up at 9:00 AM

but its sunny and 55 F.

  Before I found this guy, I was going to trailer my plane out to San Diego 

and get checked

out with Kim Prout.  Something to consider.  Or you could get your test 

flights done and

TW endorsement there and just trailer down for transition training.  Cheers!



                                              Glenn

[quote]From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2(at)verizon.net>

Reply-To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

To: <europa-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Transition training for XS Mono

Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:39:50 -0800




<craig.ellison2(at)verizon.net>



All,



I am currently getting the finishing touches on N205CN which is XS Mono and

soon will be ready for first flight.  While finding someone to do the 

honors

has been fairly stright forward, (Bob Lindsay has been very helpful and

willing)finding a Mono to do transition training in has been impossible.  

So

here is the question for the worldwide Europa family,  Is there anyone out

there(UK,NZ, US) that can help with transition training?  Here in the US 

the

only insurance for Europa requires 15hr duel and 10 hr solo before they'll

cover and the FAA has closed off any transition training in the first 40hr

of phase 1 testing.  So efectively there is no coverage for the first 40hr

unless one can get 15hr instruction beforehand.  Insurance issues aside,  I

don't feel it would be wise to fly the Europa mono without some form of

training due to its unique flying characteristics.  I know some will say to

give up on the mono and change it to a trike.  Well that is an option and

one that I might be forced to make but I would prefer not to if at all

possible.



Thanks for any and all help and or suggestions



Craig Ellison

A205/N205CN

Silverton, OR USA



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Paul Boulet

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 57
Location: Malibu, California

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: Transition training for XS Mono

Hi Glenn and all Europaphile wannabes;

Curtis McDonald is a fabulous inexpensive test pilot based in Chino but he'll travel- has a plane at his disposal.  Call him at (909) 518-6939 or better still (since it takes him several days to return calls) email him camcdonald83(at)hotmail.com

 

Tell him I sent you,

Paul Boulet, N914PB, Malibu, CA



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europa(at)triton.net
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:51 am Post subject: Transition training for XS Mono

Craig,



We went thru the same questions last Fall.  I am a 2000 hr pilot with inst

rating.  Heather is <100 hr pilot.  We hadn't flown during the build.  Our

EAA Flight Advisor recommended this plan:



To get current and to get applicable experience for the mono, we got our

glider ratings.  The glider (2-33) is a monowheel (no outriggers) and

tailwheel.  We got our tailwheel endorsement from the glider operator in a

Cessna 150 converted to taildragger with 180 hp engine.  That was fun!  We

also found a glider club with a Scheibe motorglider which is very similar to

the Europa (monowheel, outriggers, less power) and got our self launch

glider endorsement.  All this amounted to 20 - 30 hrs (2/3 glider, 1/3

tailwheel).  I did first flight and first 6 hours in the Europa with no

problem.  Heather then started flying the Europa and has 2 hrs (weather has

shut us down).  Before first flight we reread the Europa Flyer articles and

on the flight really made sure airspeed was correct.  I made a couple of

approaches before the first landing before I got the airspeed really nailed.

It's been uneventful since then but the grins are huge!  We're alternating

flights to complete the test plan and fly off the 40 hrs.



For insurance we ended up liability only from Avemco.  No one would offer us

hull.



Jim & Heather Butcher

N241BW

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