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phillik747

Joined: 04 Apr 2012
Posts: 71
Location: Birminham, AL USA

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:15 am Post subject: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Hello,



I'm wondering what hardware is used to hold the choke cable to the carburetor choke lever. In the Rotax parts for the carb, it doesn't show the part I'm referring to.  Below are a couple of images of what I'm talking about.  I'm sure there are home-brew ways to get it working but wanted to see what works best. 









Thank you,

Kyle

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rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Hi Kyle

We have a 914 with type 64 carbs. The choke arm has a slot in one of the sides. The unit I have is meant for a cable with a swedged end barrel. I tried using the barrels that came with my FWF kit with no joy. For starters the OD of the barrel was too small, but that wasn't the entire story. Because using a barrel where you use a fastener to hold the cable in place has the end of the cable sticking out of one side where if you had a swedged end there would be no tail. No matter what I tried when using a  barrel, 1 out of a dozen actuations the tail would get caught in the slot and not allow the choke to fully close. This is not a good thing because if choke is opened just a little at higher power settings it will make the mixture lean.

I ended up making a Brass barrel out of a Hex where it in fact it now has a head. This holds thinks nicely captured where the tail can't get caught in the slot. Another builder installed a McFarland throttle and choke cables and I think it does a similar thing (not positive) to hold the barrel inboard to keep the tail from getting hung up in the slot.

Here's a link to my Type 64 install:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ah1S270Nwg9VgeE0IvqA5O_QBKWt3g?e=aRlmfJ

You probably have to copy and paste URL because for whatever reason Matronics breaks it up.

Using Purple Loctite on the setscrew.

Note the throttle stops on the throttle housing mounting screws. It allows adjusting idle from the cockpit. I wasn't sure how much cam action I might need so I made 2 with different offsets. 

Ron P.

h&jeuropa

Joined: 07 Nov 2006
Posts: 635

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Kyle,



We use simple swivels from ACS,



https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/wireswivels.php?clickkey=6170



If they are a little loose doesn't seem to be a problem.



I think Lockwood and LEAF have similar available.



Jim & Heather

phillik747

Joined: 04 Apr 2012
Posts: 71
Location: Birminham, AL USA

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:21 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Hello Ron,



Impressive setup both on the cable barrel and the in cockpit idle adjustment. Might have to see if the idle adjustment can be fitted to what I have already completed.   



Also for links or images in Matronics use the following to help with posting:

 	  Code: 	
		   Surround your image link with the bracket and img and escape with the same but prefix with /, no quotes. [img]"link to image"[/img] 	


 	  Code: 	
		  Same for links/url use [url="link of interest"]My Page[/url] Replace My Page with whatever you want. eg: [url=https://1drv.ms/f/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeE0IvqA5O_QBKWt3g?e=aRlmfJ]Ron's One Drive Page.[/url] 	


Ron's One Drive Page.

However, your link and has an ! in it which this site's bbcode as a limitation with. You have to convert punctuation to code. ! = %21 in URL formatting.



Good BBCode guide here.

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phillik747

Joined: 04 Apr 2012
Posts: 71
Location: Birminham, AL USA

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Hello Jim,



This is exactly what I was looking for!  Something simple to install. I have two sets of choke cables, one came with the used engine with trimmed lengths (not using) and the other with the kit.  Both don't have stoppers, barrels, 'ends', terminal, etc.... on them.  I have no idea what the technical term is for it but you get my point.  



Thank you,

Kyle

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phillik747

Joined: 04 Apr 2012
Posts: 71
Location: Birminham, AL USA

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

After a little more digging I found this at Leading Edge Air Foils LLC for anyone else looking for one.







https://www.leadingedgeairfoils.com/barrel-cable-end.html

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rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Hi Kyle

Thank You for info on OneDrive Link.



Here's an example of barrel that was supplied with kit, also I purchased some from ACS and Lockwood that were the same as one supplied with kit. Don't use this style on a Rotax 9xx:

(url=https://1drv.ms/i/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAA) Dont use this barrel on a Rotax 9XX choke cable. (/url)



In case the above link doesn't work:

https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAA

Copy and paste full link.

Ron P.

rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Nope, let's try again with link:

(url=https://1drv.ms/i/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAA) Dont use this barrel on a Rotax 9XX choke cable.

rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Hi Kyle

What am I doing wrong with this link?:

https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAA



Thx.

Ron P.

phillik747

Joined: 04 Apr 2012
Posts: 71
Location: Birminham, AL USA

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

 	  rparigoris wrote: 	
		  Hi Kyle

What am I doing wrong with this link?:

https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAA



Thx.

Ron P. 	


https://1drv.ms/f/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeE0IvqA5O_QBKWt3g?e=aRlmfJ



You almost have it. you have to put in %21 in place of the ! and wrap the URL in bbcode: Thats the [ url ] then the link then [ /url ] (without spaces in the brackets.) 



 	  Code: 	
		  [url]https://1drv.ms/f/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeE0IvqA5O_QBKWt3g?e=aRlmfJ[/url] 	




Same with images [ img ] image link [ /img ]

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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:58 am Post subject: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Works fer me feiw



PeteZ



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Oct 22, 2023, at 10:51 AM, phillik747 <helperpsp(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 rparigoris wrote:

> Hi Kyle

> What am I doing wrong with this link?:

> https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAA

> 

> Thx.

> Ron P.

 

 

 

 

 

 You almost have it. you have to put in %21 in place of the ! and wrap the URL in bbcode: Thats the [ url ] then the link then [ /url ] (without spaces in the brackets.) 

 

 [url]https://1drv.ms/f/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeE0IvqA5O_QBKWt3g?e=aRlmfJ[/url]

 

 Same with images [ img ] image link [ /img ]

 

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 Kyle

 Europa Tri-gear (under construction)

 

 

 

 

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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=511642#511642

rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

OK let me try one more time:

[url]https://1drv.ms/i/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAADont use this barrel on a Rotax 9XX choke cable.[/url]

rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Nope

Let me try without words at end:

https://1drv.ms/i/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAA

rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

OK That worked

Now let me try a shortened link from:

https://tinyurl.com/app

https://tinyurl.com/2sxwbtsf



Ron

rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Hi Kyle



OK can make link work without description and on Tiny.



What am I doing wrong adding description and just getting a hyperlink with only description name:

[url]https://1drv.ms/i/s%21Ah1S270Nwg9VgeJJYLAg2aAvtY2I4Q?e=Bm9EAADont use this barrel on a Rotax 9XX choke cable.[/url]



I would like the hyperlink to be:

Dont use this barrel on a Rotax 9XX choke cable



Even better:

Don't use this barrel on a Rotax 9XX choke cable



Thx for taking the time to educate an idiot!



Ron P.

rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

One more try:



Don't use this barrel on a Rotax 91X choke cable.

rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 780

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Hi Kyle



OK got it.



Begin with:

[url=



Then the link and close bracket]



Put in your label



End with [/url]

Thx.

Ron P.

phillik747

Joined: 04 Apr 2012
Posts: 71
Location: Birminham, AL USA

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Bing 64 Choke Cable Terminal/bolt

Glad you got it working! I was out of town for the past few days.

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