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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:37 am    Post subject: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... Reply with quote

At 11:12 PM 5/6/2014, you wrote:
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<adverb.elephant(at)gmail.com>

Hello,

I am looking for some (apparently) special coax connectors for my
Apollo (now Garmin) nav/coms. The old connectors are made by Delta
Electronics Manufacturing Corp., part number 4205018N995-000, and
are slip-on on one side with a metal flare to help guide the radio
coax connector into place, then a center-wire solder and twist-on
shielding connection the other end. There are two rectangular
flanges for mounting to the nav/com tray.

I am told that these are standard for the older Apollo radios but
they are somewhat difficult to come by. If anyone is selling any or
knows of anyone who has any, i would appreciate it.

These connectors float on the tray, which also helps for easy
alignment when sliding the radio into the tray. I just need new
connectors so I can switch to my RG400 coax from the RG58. Let's see
if I can add some photos.

Those are a real odd-ball tray connector for coax.
Most manufacturers went with the TED 9-29-10
connector . . . legend has it that they designed
that connector for Ed King waaaayyyy back when.
They became popular and were adopted by almost
everybody and are still in production.

http://tinyurl.com/ob7xtyq

I've never encountered the connector you've cited.
If you could get me some clearer photos, I'd like
to add them to the archives.

As to your particular question, are you replacing
RG58 because it's damaged or now too short? As
Kelly pointed out, unless there are mechanical
reasons for replacing the coax, performance gains
for replacing it are trivial.

Can you unscrew the cap on the back of the connector?
I think you'll find an access port to a soldered
connection to center conductor under that cap.
I note that the shield connection appears to be
the legacy BNC-style clamp-ring and gasket. With
some care on the workbench, you can salvage and
reinstall the old connector.

If coax replacement IS indicated, you can also
cut off the old RG58 to leave a 6" or so
flying lead which you can terminate with a cable
female BNC . . . then extend your new installation
from that point without risk to the old connector.

I'll bet that critter is not easy to find and
probably expensive if you do find it.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:25 am    Post subject: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... Reply with quote

Hi Bob,

I don't believe he's talking about those (king/icom/etc..)...I think
specifically the Delta P/N mentioned used by Apollo/UPSat/Garmin...which are
these (not my picture):

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FBkFonYU8-0/UUHdBy2NWmI/AAAAAAAAHW0/FYiLVN28ZB0/s4
00/IMG_2594.JPG
As noted, you can easily install RG58 or RG400 into this connector and they
are reusable. They are rare because they are no longer in production, but
we have a slew of them in stock just due to normal business with these over
the years. What's harder to find is the little shoulder nuts that allow
those to float...we have to turn some down by hand on the lathe if we need
them!

Cheers,

Stein


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... Reply with quote

Oh!!

Stein, can you send me that schematic in the background (installation instructions for this Delta connector) of the image you attached to your reply? Knowing the proper installation procedures would help if I have to re-use the old connectors.

From your image I see that RG400 can, in fact, work in this style of connector. That's very reassuring.

Rather than leave a pig tail of RG58 on the back of the tray, I'd rather go with RG400 the whole way.

I've been busy and have not been able to locate any Delta Electronics Manufacturing Corp. distributors: DEMC would not sell directly to me as I'm not a business. Stein, if you know where I could get 4 to 6 of these connectors that would be great. Just the installation instructions though would be a big plus.

Travis
Los Alamos, NM
adverb.elephant(at)gmail.com


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