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Bbryanallsop(at)wmconnect
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: Europa Monowheel Performance with fixed pitch prop & 912S

Hi Phil.



If you are not planning on operating out of very short strips there are no 

problems with the 912S/fixed pitch combo. You will have plenty of power, and you 

will not have the cost, weight, and maintainance issues to worry about.



You can set the pitch to give optimum cruise performance, and your wife will 

be able to bring lots more hair driers and things on trips.



Try it first. Go to variable pitch if you have to!



Cheers  Bryan

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Bbryanallsop(at)wmconnect
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: Europa Monowheel Performance with fixed pitch prop & 912S

You do that Phil, then come and compare it with mine before you contemplate 

going VP. My XS has a Woodcomp CS/VP prop. I have no complaints about it 

regarding value for money, and it does add to the performance. Having said that I 

would not hurry to spend the money again. It is 20 pounds heavier, it requires 

extra attention in flight and in maintenance, and it does not increase the 

pleasure I get from flying. The Europa flies beautifully with fixed pitch



Add to that the fact that you will have yet another maintenance log to keep 

up and more expense.



I will keep it on now that I have got it, because of the marginal benefits I 

get on longer trips, and because people think it adds resale value (should I 

ever have to sell). If it really broke though, I would not replace it!



Good luck    Bryan

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jeff(at)rmmm.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: Europa Monowheel Performance with fixed pitch prop & 912S

I think I'll jump in here. I agree with Bryan except I can only speak 

from fixed pitch prop experience. I have a Tri-Gear with only 4 hours 

on it. I can say I am really pleased! I have set the Warp Drive ground 

adjustable to 21 degrees as I have 8000 feet of runway to play with. I 

know it's still a bit cold but this bird is off the ground in just over 

500 feet it's climbing at 65 to 70 kTS at 1100 FPM. After years of 

152's and Cherokee's I have to say WOW!  So far without wheel pants it 

cruses at 115KTS at 3000 ft with only 4500 RPM's. Once I clean this 

thing up and go with the recommended 5000 + RPM's I should see 125 to 

130 KTS. I would like to have a new VP prop but for now I'm having too 

much fun flying what I got. I just wish I had more time to enjoy it. So 

for now I'll say.... Keep it light and simple and have fun flying.

Jeff

A258 Fitting the wheel pants and flying.



On Mar 27, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Bbryanallsop(at)wmconnect.com wrote:



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 You do that Phil, then come and compare it with mine before you 

 contemplate

 going VP. My XS has a Woodcomp CS/VP prop. I have no complaints about 

 it

 regarding value for money, and it does add to the performance. Having 

 said that I

 would not hurry to spend the money again. It is 20 pounds heavier, it 

 requires

 extra attention in flight and in maintenance, and it does not increase 

 the

 pleasure I get from flying. The Europa flies beautifully with fixed 

 pitch



 Add to that the fact that you will have yet another maintenance log to 

 keep

 up and more expense.



 I will keep it on now that I have got it, because of the marginal 

 benefits I

 get on longer trips, and because people think it adds resale value 

 (should I

 ever have to sell). If it really broke though, I would not replace it!



 Good luck    Bryan

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BEBERRY(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject: Europa Monowheel Performance with fixed pitch prop & 912S

Sounds as though you have a jewel of an aeroplane there. I only got about  

100Knots at the same rpm with a Warp Drive set at similar pitch.  I have  

replaced it with an Arplast VP but not yet flown.  Hope I have not wasted  money!

 

Patrick

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paul.mcallister

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: Europa Monowheel Performance with fixed pitch prop & 912S

Hi all,



Well, I'd like to offer a contrary opinion.  I have an Airmaster and I think

its a game changer  for take off performance.  I have been in and out of

short grass strips at 5000' with MUW and it still gets off in a short

distance with greater than 1000 feet per minute climb. Its not all that

often that I run at MUW, but the take off and climb performance is

significantly different from solo in my aircraft.



Paul



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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: Europa Monowheel Performance with fixed pitch prop & 912S

Bryan, Last time I weighed my Woodcomp prop it was 9.8 kg including spinner

wiring & instruments. Can you really have had a fixed pitch system weighing

20 lbs (9.1kg) lighter? Regards, David

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Bbryanallsop(at)wmconnect
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: Europa Monowheel Performance with fixed pitch prop & 912S

Hi David.



Well, there you go!



I cannot verify the weight difference from where I am at  the moment, but I 

do know that I had to move the battery back from the firewall to beneath the 

luggage bay to offset the weight difference.



Cheers. Bryan

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ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: Europa Monowheel Performance with fixed pitch prop & 912S

So that's another 3 lbs for battery cabling in addition to the controller 

and its wiring for the VP. But then the pilot looses weight from the worry 

and exercise of all that extra knob twiddling and log filling!



Duncan McF

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