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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:08 am    Post subject: Europas with no hanger.... Reply with quote

I am looking to purchase a Europa but for the foreseeable future it may have to live outside.

Is there any advice on precautions to take, covers to buy, how to tie down etc etc.

Any experience on what weathers badly and needs to be checked frequently... etc etc.

Many thanks,

Terry.
(Location - East Coast - UK)


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Europas with no hanger.... Reply with quote

I have bought a cover from Jaksland.
Works just perfect.
Regards Gert

http://www.jaxida.dk/

Den 06/02/2006 kl. 15.08 skrev TERRY SMITH:

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I am looking to purchase a Europa but for the foreseeable future it
may have to live outside.

Is there any advice on precautions to take, covers to buy, how to
tie down etc etc.

Any experience on what weathers badly and needs to be checked
frequently... etc etc.

Many thanks,

Terry.
(Location - East Coast - UK)




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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Europas with no hanger.... Reply with quote

Terry

I kept my trigear in the open for the first winter I had it and it was a
nightmare. Every time the wind changed direction I'd have to sprint down
to the airfield to turn the beast around. If you really can't avoid it
being in the open then I'd advise the following:

Park in the lee of a hanger or other structure if possible.

Lash/lock all the controls very well. Everything is vulnerable when the
control surfaces are flapping in a tail wind, especially the elevator
torque tube.

Find some way of tying down the nose, tail and both wings. Europas are
much lighter than just about anything you'll see parked outside and it
doesn't take too much of a gust for them to "take off". Nose and tail
are not too hard. If I were doing it again I think I'd make up some
canvas socks to go over the wing tips to attach a tie down to. By
contrast, the PA28 I had a part share in lived outside for 10 years with
simple tie downs and we had no problems even in severe gale force winds
- one advantage of an aircraft built like a brick sh*t house.

Cover the elevator pip pin holes so they don't fill with rain water and
cause crevice corrosion to the torque tube.

Cover the canopy, fuel filler and engine cowlings with a rain proof
cover to keep out water and wildlife.

Be ready for electrical gremlins, especially radios, in very wet
weather.

Presumably you'll keep any valuables out of sight or out of the
aircraft.

Good luck finding somewhere to put it out of the weather.

Willie Harrison

G-BZNY


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Europas with no hanger.... Reply with quote

Terry,
Because the Europa is so easy to rig and de-rig, the alternative is a
covered trailer. Many of us use that method. However, someone who keeps
his Europa outside permanently is Peter Jeffers, committee member /
inspector / PFA examiner; details in any of the mags.
Good luck,
William

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Europas with no hanger.... Reply with quote

Dear All,

Thanks to everyone for the various replies - most helpful and I will respond 'off forum' as appropriate and in due course.

A related question: How have folk tied down a Europa? I am looking at a machine without tiedown points (as I understand it) and I gather from the experts that fitting 'proper' bonded tiedown loops is a significant retro-mod. Even if you are blessed with a cosy hanger I guess you sometimes have to leave it out when visiting away?

Is the answer some form of webbing straps put over the wings etc etc???

Thanks,

Terry.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Europas with no hanger.... Reply with quote

Terry,

Back in the archives somewhere there are details on tie down plates that
attach to the outrigger plates using the 3 bolts.
Seems like an OK solution for casual tie downs, but I'm not sure what the
factory view on this method would be.

Dave A061

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Dear All,

Thanks to everyone for the various replies - most helpful and I will
respond 'off forum' as appropriate and in due course.

A related question: How have folk tied down a Europa? I am looking at a
machine without tiedown points (as I understand it) and I gather from the
experts that fitting 'proper' bonded tiedown loops is a significant
retro-mod. Even if you are blessed with a cosy hanger I guess you
sometimes have to leave it out when visiting away?

Is the answer some form of webbing straps put over the wings etc etc???

Thanks,

Terry.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Europas with no hanger.... Reply with quote

Terry,

Go to http://www.n55xs.com and check my June 26/27, 2004 entry for the
tail tiedown and September 30, 2004 entry for the wing tiedowns. These
have be perfectly suitable for tieing down the aircraft in winds up to
35 knots...

Jeff - N55XS
140 hours

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Dear All,

Thanks to everyone for the various replies - most helpful and I will respond 'off forum' as appropriate and in due course.

A related question: How have folk tied down a Europa? I am looking at a machine without tiedown points (as I understand it) and I gather from the experts that fitting 'proper' bonded tiedown loops is a significant retro-mod. Even if you are blessed with a cosy hanger I guess you sometimes have to leave it out when visiting away?

Is the answer some form of webbing straps put over the wings etc etc???

Thanks,

Terry.









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