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  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
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PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2026 6:38 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
The builder or experienced pilot will know how the switches work.
A new pilot might think,
"If the switch is off, then no electricity is going to the valve, so it must be open."
or
&quo ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 11:13 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
How will the switches be labeled for the wing tank solenoid valves?
Attached is one possibility.
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2026 5:56 pm   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
After thinking about it, one could accomplish the same thing without installing a
momentary push button switch by pulling the circuit breaker for the fuel level
switches and then resetting it, ass ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2026 10:43 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
I added a momentary push button switch to the circuit (circled in red).
You will have to decide if this added feature is worth the risk of the switch
failing and causing the valves to short cycle o ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 3:12 pm   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Pete,
It seems that you want do away with the manual mode and make the center
switch position automatic just like the top position.
Why not just use a 2 position switch, OFF and AUTOMATIC?
Anoth ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 11:34 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
I am not necessarily recommending dual relay control of wing tank valves.
But I have attached a dual relay option.
If automatic pumping from one tank is lost due to relay failure, then automatic
pu ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 9:09 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Billski, Thanks for your input.
I like your idea of venting the main tank back to the wing tanks.
And I agree that Failure Modes and Effects Analysis is a good idea.
It is my understanding that the ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2026 6:08 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
The OP wants a warning light to come on if the main fuel tank low level sensor
has not reset after 20 seconds. Amazon has a timer relay that should do it.
It has both high and low input triggers.
...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2026 10:10 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Below is a schematic of the Viper Jet mail fuel tank level control.
It was confusing to draw because the valves are normally open.
Power is applied to close the valves.
The low fuel bingo light fea ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2026 9:48 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Simple relay circuit attached.
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2026 9:29 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
After thinking about it, why use an AND Gate?
The upper liquid level switch could energize the relay.
The relay can hold through the lower liquid level switch.
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2026 9:07 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Eric,
What do you think of the attached circuit? It uses discrete components. No computer necessary. Integrate it with your switch circuit.
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2026 11:28 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
OK, I modified my drawing in post number 5 by moving the lower fuel level
sensor from the bottom of the tank to a higher position.
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2026 8:40 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Pete, you wrote in a previous post, "The goal is to always keep the main tank
full until the wings are empty". That seems reasonable. It is hard for me to
understand how the fuel comp ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2026 7:28 pm   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Pete,
Do the wing tanks have level sensors as part of the automatic fuel transfer system?
Do each of the fuel tanks have level sensors that are not part of the automatic transfer system
but connec ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2026 6:46 pm   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
I redrew the hydraulic circuit in my post above. The new version is based on a sketch that Pete emailed to me.
Is it accurate Pete? Is it pretty? Smile
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2026 9:42 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Pete, I made a diagram of the Viper Jet fuel system based on my interpretation
of your description. It is unlikely that I got it right. Please make corrections.
Understanding how the system is ...
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2026 8:08 am   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manager
Below are a couple of links to websites about the Viper Jet for anyone interested.

https://youtu.be/t_QnUYNVE-U

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viper_Aircraft_ViperJet
  Topic: Fuel System Manager
user9253

Replies: 60
Views: 4781

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2026 2:09 pm   Subject: Re: Fuel System Manger
What is the make and model of this aircraft?
Is it factory made or experimental?
Is the fuel gasoline or diesel?
What fuel pressure does the engine require?
Have you considered using a manual 4 po ...
  Topic: resistance in solenoid
user9253

Replies: 16
Views: 3635

PostForum: AeroElectric-List   Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2025 11:40 am   Subject: Re: resistance in solenoid
The OP sent me a private email. He indicated that there are two continuous
duty contactors, only one used at a time. Which ever one is energized will
carry starter current and aircraft load. He ...
 
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